Killing all Xenon...

[Wolfsblut]

A good Idea when i do not Aim for them to be there?

[Alith-Ahnar]

No.
Xenon are the primary force for destruction.
Destruction drives the Economy.
Killing the Xenon would result in a mostly dead Game.

[Aeekto]

Originally posted by Alith-Ahnar:

No.
Xenon are the primary force for destruction.
Destruction drives the Economy.
Killing the Xenon would result in a mostly dead Game.

not realy...
you can still strengthen ZYA so they focus more on war against other factions like ARG.
you can start a war between ARG and TER.
And you can unite the Paranids and make them go full force war against everyone.

Economy is very much still alive after erasing the xenon... you just have to complete some plots to start a universewar.

[Oddible]

^ But the Teladi will stagnate without the Xenon and Kha'ak. The most boring games I've ever played are when I boost all the faction economies so much that the Xenon aren't a threat. The worst game I ever played was when I took some terrible advice on the forums and made a bee line right for a wharf and shipyard and started pumping out military - what a horrible slog.

Now I play for story.

[Wraith]

Teladi already at war with HOP and if you make TRI declare war on everyone they now share a border and the Teladi get an actual enemy for a change

[Aeekto]

Originally posted by Wraith:

Teladi already at war with HOP and if you make TRI declare war on everyone they now share a border and the Teladi get an actual enemy for a change

Exactly... TRI will be an even bigger threat than XEN ever was for TEL/MIN

[Alith-Ahnar]

Originally posted by Aeekto:

Originally posted by Alith-Ahnar:

No.
Xenon are the primary force for destruction.
Destruction drives the Economy.
Killing the Xenon would result in a mostly dead Game.

not realy...
you can still strengthen ZYA so they focus more on war against other factions like ARG.
you can start a war between ARG and TER.
And you can unite the Paranids and make them go full force war against everyone.

Economy is very much still alive after erasing the xenon... you just have to complete some plots to start a universewar.

The ZYA vs. ARG War to actually proper escalate needs certain Key sectors to flip to either ARG or ZYA control yet they wont be contested as the original owner are none hostile to both.

The TER vs. ARG conflict is campaign related and even if triggered is only a minor conflict as the Argon usually make no dent into the Terran defenses.

Yes, The Realm of the Trinity is the only Real contender yet to have them go Total War on all other factions Several map conditions have to be met before hand that are not natural so again considering that this is again a campaign outcome unlikely.

For all of those scenarios to proper blowup some intense landscaping is necessary that usually Xenon perform, not to forget maybe the OP decided help the Curb Cabal into power, or followed orders and pitted ANT against ARG or what if the call of the Duke was so strong so helped form the Tempest?

So No under normal circumstances purging the Xenon is not a healthy move.

[Wolfsblut]

Thanks for all the advice i could read. About the Xenon, they are just Annoying to me. like the Pirates. But i don´t find the Ports where Pirates start.

I am almost endgame. I do have some plots left i wanna do...one of them (Yaki) was also suggesting to me cleaning some Sectors around them so i thought about going full war. already cleard 50% Xenon Sectors..and HOP already cleaned they´re Xenon themself ROFL.

My Races like ARG/TER/TEL/PAR always going into war so never gonna get economic problems :D but i think if the xenon die, the Terrans might start an universe war maybe. They already are very Far from they´re Home Sectors when i fly though the universe and they are always killing the Xenon in the way of them... Osaka and Asgard can even fight pretty good against Defence Stations.. noone was hit and they hit hard. lol

For Now i really think about freeing some ZYA Sectors they´re completly gone and help the Yaki a bit by cleaning they´re on the way as well.

[BaneBlackGuard]

the only good xenon is a dead xenon. 8P there is always other sources of conflict in the universe if you want it.

[Zloth]

Originally posted by Alith-Ahnar:

Killing the Xenon would result in a mostly dead Game.

In other words: you win, so it's time to go play another game. ;)

[Wolfsblut]

Originally posted by Zloth:

Originally posted by Alith-Ahnar:

Killing the Xenon would result in a mostly dead Game.

In other words: you win, so it's time to go play another game. ;)

I thought The Same.

After The Xenon are gone and i have completed all Plots i can finally move onto next Game.

i only have Tons left to Play after x4f

Edit;
X4F by now Took me over 300 hours of Playtime and Got with it into Second place after Killing Floor 2 with around nearly 600 hours. I am impressed by x4f for this, i already Play for 6 weeks.
Most Games do Not even need a week to be completed.
Far Cry 5 Took me about a week in Coop and its world was Big Like x4f was but didnt Had to offer this much sadly. (I found that world sadly empty)

[Bozz 💀]

What you say is not true, I have played this game for 1.800 Hours I can tell you that you don't need xenons to drive the economy but it will need "some" player involvment.

what is great with xenons is that they are well spread out and will cause destruction in several places around the universe and they also rebuild their ships way faster than the regular factions so they can come back again and again and ultimately take out a station etc... Which will consume a lot of ressources to build it.

If you remove the xenons the regular factions will focus more on invading each other as they will no longer loose ships to xenons, antigonids will have 2 contact points with Holy order. I don't like the realm of trinity because they are too strong to go at war with teladi or argons and too far away to go at war with everyone.
Tempest on the other side, if you fuel their shipyard they will be a very strong faction and cause havoc to all their ennemies.

Same for terran conflict, it can take some time to blow up but once it does they usually push into second contact and then have to face both argons and antigonids which will result in lots of losses to both sides...

My only issue is curbs and Zya not really fighting unless you can remove the Teladi and make them border each other.

Teladi will fullfill their normal role, they have the most sector and usually the strongest economy so they will help fuel all the shipyards.

Now keep in mind this game is not meant to have one super strong faction, even if they can wipe each other out doesn't mean the game is designed around, it doesn't seem like the factions will build more ships and stations the more sectors they have, in my ZYA only game they pushed far in argon place and then they lost ground simply because they had too many sectors and were not building much stations or more military.

Now I use mods and it's even greater !

[Kalisa]

is it possible to actually wipe out the xenon and have them as an actual defeated faction? i noticed with the custom game start u get +3000 faction points if you wipe out a faction (didnt even know it was possible to totally wipe out a faction)

[Daddy Shark]

Oh yes. You can kill everyone.

[Vali]

But the people live on the planets. They really dont care and never start a revolt if they work for you instead for Teladi or someone else.

If you dominate the galaxy, is finally peace.

[Kalisa]

Originally posted by Daddy Shark:

Oh yes. You can kill everyone.

from what i understood xenon could keep respawning just like the Khaak, do you actually get any kind of notification when you wipe someone out compleatly, im trying to do custom game start currency hunts, and well i would love to totally wipe out argon for 3k faction currency XD