Mining station setup

[lnomsim]

It's been some time since I built a mining station, and I don't remember how to set it up.

Do I need to create a buy order to make assigned miners feed it or will they do it by themselves?

If I need to create a buy order, do I need to create a rule that will prevent the trade miners to buy goods?

Do I also need a sell order for the trading miner to sell or can they sell by themselves?

If I create a buy order, the station will, well, need to pay the miners, I suppose that means the money will come back to my account, is there a way to prevent that and keep the money in the station if t's supplied by its won subordinates?

[Gregorovitch]

To set up an ore mining station:

* Set ore as a trade good in the station logical view. This will automatically create buy and sell orders for ore.

* change the prices on both buy and sell orders from auto to manual

* set the buy order price to min and sell order a to maybe 5-8 Cr more than min. This is to make sure your miners trading to NPC refineries almost always see a profit but at the same time there's also a sufficient "notional profit" for your station itself (if that makes any sense)

* I always set the buy order to "my faction only" but I'm not sure you actually have to do that, I don't think NPC miners will sell to your station. But I'm not sure.

Assign miners to mine and a few more to trade and that should be it.

[lnomsim]

Thanks.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

To set up an ore mining station:
* I always set the buy order to "my faction only" but I'm not sure you actually have to do that, I don't think NPC miners will sell to your station. But I'm not sure.

You totally should set it to my faction only.
The NPC miners will come to sell it to you if you leave it open.

[lnomsim]

Don't my ships will buy from my station at low price to sell to other station at their price?

Anyway, my trader miner doesn't trade.
There is demand in the sector itself and in the sector next door.
But the ship is stuck in looking for trade.

And yes, my station has issued sell orders.

[lnomsim]

Yes, both ships are mineral miners.
But increasing the selling price to max hasn't solved the trader being stuck in looking for trade.

[lnomsim]

That was my previous point, if I want to ensure selling, I should sell at a minimum price.
But at the minimum price, it is stuck anyway.

The minimum price is 112crd, and I have a station in the very same sector buying for 122crd.

[lnomsim]

Well, I'm really interested in those other reasons since there are stations buying.
if I put the ship in auto miner, it works.

If I put it as a station trader, it fails to find a buyer.

Even though its default behaviour then is still autominer.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by RedMonkeyButt:

Did you adjust the amounts you want to sell/buy under Logical View? Set it manually. For buy set it to full. For sell set it to sell all but 1. Now reassign the ship.

exactly this.
Don't have both be automatic.

Because the way automatic work is that it can shut off buy or sell order if it feel the need to.

Example it shut off sell order, so that it can focus on filling the resource up.

[Wraith]

It storage based from what I can tell and and become significantly more noticeable when you have a massive storage

Which was one of the reason I was so happy when they decoupled the sell and buy amount effectively allowing me to have both at the same time

[lnomsim]

It was the trade restriction to my faction.
As soon as I deactivated it, it found the routes and now it works fine.

Thanks for your help.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by RedMonkeyButt:

Originally posted by lnomsim:

Yes, both ships are mineral miners.
But increasing the selling price to max hasn't solved the trader being stuck in looking for trade.

He will look for the trade that will meet what you have selected for the sell price.

I don't think that's quite right.

If you set a sell price that becomes the minimum price you will sell for. The actual price you get is the price the customer refinery is currently offering at the time the deal is struck. This will always be equal or greater than your station's sell price.

If you set your price too high you won't sell many loads of ore. If you set it below average price you'll sell a lot more loads. Some of them will be at a high price, some about average price, so long as you don't over egg the pudding and saturate the local market.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by Wraith:

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

To set up an ore mining station:
* I always set the buy order to "my faction only" but I'm not sure you actually have to do that, I don't think NPC miners will sell to your station. But I'm not sure.

You totally should set it to my faction only.
The NPC miners will come to sell it to you if you leave it open.

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't know 'cos as I said I have always routinely set mining station buy orders to my faction only.

[Kencko]

my miners set to trade wont pick up my silicon from station to distribute to other factions help

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by !Kencko:

my miners set to trade wont pick up my silicon from station to distribute to other factions help

It's usually a price or trade rule issue. After that it's often a range issue. Station ships have a range of one gate per station manager management skill star. Customers must be within that range.

Post a screen shot of your stations logical view with silicon box open to show the settings and folks will probably spot the problem for you.