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Winwing Orion throttle not detected
I just got my Winwing Orion throttle and X4 will not detect it, this and my VKB gunfighter are the only thing I have plugged in controller wise and that is working and detected.

Edit: Alright so you must use the SimAppPro software from Winwing to make a virtual profile off all the axis, and up to 32 buttons as this is the amount X$ can handle per device, and when you create the 32 button inputs, you must change them from whatever number it says it is virtually to one between 1-32. After that, this works perfect now, minus some 3 way switches atm due to the button limitation but there may be a workaround to that. Thanks to all who helped especially FunkynutZ
Last edited by Tunnelsnakessss; Dec 7, 2021 @ 10:53pm
Originally posted by Dusty443:
Tunnelsnakessss:

I realize I'm a tad late to the party, but this is what I found that finally worked (for me at least) while upgrading my flight gear foe Elite Dangerous.

Winwing Plug-n-Pray 2.0

1. Unplug everything EXCEPT for your mouse and keyboard.
2. Reboot your PC.
3. Uninstall SimAppPro - do NOT delete the program, you will be reinstalling it..
4. Reboot..
5. Install SimAppPro as ADMINISTRATOR.
6. Finish install and close program.
7. Find the shortcut it put on your desktop, right click on it and click on Properties.
8. Click on COMPATIBILITY, CHECK the box @Run this program as Administrator.
9. Click OK.
10. Reboot..
11. Open SimAppPro via shortcut.
12. ONE AT AT A TIME.. plug-in you joystick - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro. If not.. you messed up somewhere, start over.
13. Plug-in your throttle - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro.
14. After they show-up in SimAppPro - click on the blue squares one @ a time and update the firmware for each.
15. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and CALIBRATE each controller.
16. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and TEST each controller and SAVE the results on your PC.
17. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and click on the square that says "32-button mode" and put each controller into 32-button mode.
18. Exit/close SimAppPro and..
19. Reboot (last time - I swear!!)
20. Open SimAppPro and everything should be good to go!

Now you can add all the other USB stuff to your OTHER hub and leave this one alone. Trust me, if you begin to add-back all your old crap after going through all this just to get your new toys up and runnin'..

If at anytime you lose connection to your WW stuff, or SimAppPro freezes or something else happens.. unplug everything and start back at Step 10 - and send all that superfluous bs to a new hub.

Hope it helps!

(I've only used SimAppPro a little and I already don't like it..)
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Tunnelsnakessss Dec 9, 2021 @ 1:15pm 
The SimAppPro software just turns the device into VJOY devices when activating its virtual inputs option, and all 5 are recognized in game so either way should work but as of right now it's only a few 3 way switches that aren't usable ingame and to me I haven't found something that would be best used with those in game so I'm pretty content for now on that end! Now to actually learn how to play lol!
Eternalace11 Feb 24, 2022 @ 12:17am 
Have you found any easier ways to do that and could i please ask for a copy of the simapppro profile.
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Dusty443 Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:34pm 
Tunnelsnakessss:

I realize I'm a tad late to the party, but this is what I found that finally worked (for me at least) while upgrading my flight gear foe Elite Dangerous.

Winwing Plug-n-Pray 2.0

1. Unplug everything EXCEPT for your mouse and keyboard.
2. Reboot your PC.
3. Uninstall SimAppPro - do NOT delete the program, you will be reinstalling it..
4. Reboot..
5. Install SimAppPro as ADMINISTRATOR.
6. Finish install and close program.
7. Find the shortcut it put on your desktop, right click on it and click on Properties.
8. Click on COMPATIBILITY, CHECK the box @Run this program as Administrator.
9. Click OK.
10. Reboot..
11. Open SimAppPro via shortcut.
12. ONE AT AT A TIME.. plug-in you joystick - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro. If not.. you messed up somewhere, start over.
13. Plug-in your throttle - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro.
14. After they show-up in SimAppPro - click on the blue squares one @ a time and update the firmware for each.
15. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and CALIBRATE each controller.
16. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and TEST each controller and SAVE the results on your PC.
17. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and click on the square that says "32-button mode" and put each controller into 32-button mode.
18. Exit/close SimAppPro and..
19. Reboot (last time - I swear!!)
20. Open SimAppPro and everything should be good to go!

Now you can add all the other USB stuff to your OTHER hub and leave this one alone. Trust me, if you begin to add-back all your old crap after going through all this just to get your new toys up and runnin'..

If at anytime you lose connection to your WW stuff, or SimAppPro freezes or something else happens.. unplug everything and start back at Step 10 - and send all that superfluous bs to a new hub.

Hope it helps!

(I've only used SimAppPro a little and I already don't like it..)
Tunnelsnakessss Jan 6, 2023 @ 11:14pm 
Thank you! Help is always appreciated!
Tunnelsnakessss Jan 10, 2023 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Dusty443:
Tunnelsnakessss:

I realize I'm a tad late to the party, but this is what I found that finally worked (for me at least) while upgrading my flight gear foe Elite Dangerous.

Winwing Plug-n-Pray 2.0

1. Unplug everything EXCEPT for your mouse and keyboard.
2. Reboot your PC.
3. Uninstall SimAppPro - do NOT delete the program, you will be reinstalling it..
4. Reboot..
5. Install SimAppPro as ADMINISTRATOR.
6. Finish install and close program.
7. Find the shortcut it put on your desktop, right click on it and click on Properties.
8. Click on COMPATIBILITY, CHECK the box @Run this program as Administrator.
9. Click OK.
10. Reboot..
11. Open SimAppPro via shortcut.
12. ONE AT AT A TIME.. plug-in you joystick - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro. If not.. you messed up somewhere, start over.
13. Plug-in your throttle - it "should" show-up in SimAppPro.
14. After they show-up in SimAppPro - click on the blue squares one @ a time and update the firmware for each.
15. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and CALIBRATE each controller.
16. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and TEST each controller and SAVE the results on your PC.
17. Then click on the blue squares one @ a time and click on the square that says "32-button mode" and put each controller into 32-button mode.
18. Exit/close SimAppPro and..
19. Reboot (last time - I swear!!)
20. Open SimAppPro and everything should be good to go!

Now you can add all the other USB stuff to your OTHER hub and leave this one alone. Trust me, if you begin to add-back all your old crap after going through all this just to get your new toys up and runnin'..

If at anytime you lose connection to your WW stuff, or SimAppPro freezes or something else happens.. unplug everything and start back at Step 10 - and send all that superfluous bs to a new hub.

Hope it helps!

(I've only used SimAppPro a little and I already don't like it..)

Hey finally got around to trying this, Winwings software seems to be working but it looks like when I put it into 4 x 32 mode, X4 still only sees 1 Winwing input, maybe because they're all named the same? Have you had this issue?
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Date Posted: Dec 1, 2021 @ 2:12pm
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