Why are all of the controls garbage?

[Chicago]

This game seems like it has a lot going for it but it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to play this with default controls and anyone who does is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skinwalker. Why would the developers of the game do this? Even if you spend the time to remap all of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it'd still be awful. If you want people to actually keep your game instead of refunding it after starting the tutorial, actually program a control setup someone can look at and say "great, I don't have to change 500 keys just to be able to play this".

EDIT: Ok, it's insane to me that people are actually getting mad at me for calling a CONTROL SCHEME ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Wow guys, you really know how to be a white knight for a videogame. To anyone who wanted to help or wasn't simping for control schemes, thanks for being here.

[Bozz 💀]

Nguyên văn bởi Chicago Ted:

This game seems like it has a lot going for it but it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to play this with default controls and anyone who does is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skinwalker. Why would the developers of the game do this? Even if you spend the time to remap all of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it'd still be awful. If you want people to actually keep your game instead of refunding it after starting the tutorial, actually program a control setup someone can look at and say "great, I don't have to change 500 keys just to be able to play this".

EDIT: Ok, it's insane to me that people are actually getting mad at me for calling a CONTROL SCHEME ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Wow guys, you really know how to be a white knight for a videogame. To anyone who wanted to help or wasn't simping for control schemes, thanks for being here.

brother you talk like a 10 Year old children and then you complain that people get mad at you, try talks like a grown up person and people will help you and they will respect you.
Don't act like headless chicken
this also counts for you interactions IRL
If you want respect then show that you deserve it !

[Chicago]

Nguyên văn bởi Bozz 💀:

Nguyên văn bởi Chicago Ted:

This game seems like it has a lot going for it but it is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ impossible to play this with default controls and anyone who does is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skinwalker. Why would the developers of the game do this? Even if you spend the time to remap all of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ it'd still be awful. If you want people to actually keep your game instead of refunding it after starting the tutorial, actually program a control setup someone can look at and say "great, I don't have to change 500 keys just to be able to play this".

EDIT: Ok, it's insane to me that people are actually getting mad at me for calling a CONTROL SCHEME ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Wow guys, you really know how to be a white knight for a videogame. To anyone who wanted to help or wasn't simping for control schemes, thanks for being here.

brother you talk like a 10 Year old children and then you complain that people get mad at you, try talks like a grown up person and people will help you and they will respect you.
Don't act like headless chicken
this also counts for you interactions IRL
If you want respect then show that you deserve it !

I vented, and I admitted I was bit too rude in my original post in a reply (wouldn't blame you for not reading the whole thing). I'm sorry I was belligerent on the internet, but I guess that's unforgivable and I'm marked as a "child" forever so that people can sit here and pretend like they've never sworn at their monitor after having a rat's ass of a day and having to deal with janky controls from a videogame they just dropped 40 bucks on.

I don't know why I have to make a public apology for swearing on a game forum. Some of you guys seems to think I'm "triggered" or something, and then proceeds to complain about me complaining. Almost half of the people who replied here did so without acting like they were better than me just for being pissed off.

And jesus christ, if I hear another "if you did that in real life, you'd be a pariah" stuff. No, people vent IRL all the time, and you don't burn them at the stake.

I'm sorry if any of you feel "disrespected", that was never my intention. But if you can't handle one neanderthal venting his anger on a forum, then you're an even bigger baby than I.

[Bozz 💀]

Nguyên văn bởi Chicago Ted:

Nguyên văn bởi Bozz 💀:

brother you talk like a 10 Year old children and then you complain that people get mad at you, try talks like a grown up person and people will help you and they will respect you.
Don't act like headless chicken
this also counts for you interactions IRL
If you want respect then show that you deserve it !

I vented, and I admitted I was bit too rude in my original post in a reply (wouldn't blame you for not reading the whole thing). I'm sorry I was belligerent on the internet, but I guess that's unforgivable and I'm marked as a "child" forever so that people can sit here and pretend like they've never sworn at their monitor after having a rat's ass of a day and having to deal with janky controls from a videogame they just dropped 40 bucks on.

I don't know why I have to make a public apology for swearing on a game forum. Some of you guys seems to think I'm "triggered" or something, and then proceeds to complain about me complaining. Almost half of the people who replied here did so without acting like they were better than me just for being pissed off.

And jesus christ, if I hear another "if you did that in real life, you'd be a pariah" stuff. No, people vent IRL all the time, and you don't burn them at the stake.

I'm sorry if any of you feel "disrespected", that was never my intention. But if you can't handle one neanderthal venting his anger on a forum, then you're an even bigger baby than I.

No problem mate, just delete this thread and start a new one ^^
It's okey to vent but if you do it in front of strangers I doubt they will have a sympathic look on you, here we are all strangers.
I don't try to be rude or anything, it's just that usually when people ask something normally they always get a response.

I hope you get the answers you need.

[Chicago]

Nguyên văn bởi Bozz 💀:

Nguyên văn bởi Chicago Ted:

I vented, and I admitted I was bit too rude in my original post in a reply (wouldn't blame you for not reading the whole thing). I'm sorry I was belligerent on the internet, but I guess that's unforgivable and I'm marked as a "child" forever so that people can sit here and pretend like they've never sworn at their monitor after having a rat's ass of a day and having to deal with janky controls from a videogame they just dropped 40 bucks on.

I don't know why I have to make a public apology for swearing on a game forum. Some of you guys seems to think I'm "triggered" or something, and then proceeds to complain about me complaining. Almost half of the people who replied here did so without acting like they were better than me just for being pissed off.

And jesus christ, if I hear another "if you did that in real life, you'd be a pariah" stuff. No, people vent IRL all the time, and you don't burn them at the stake.

I'm sorry if any of you feel "disrespected", that was never my intention. But if you can't handle one neanderthal venting his anger on a forum, then you're an even bigger baby than I.

No problem mate, just delete this thread and start a new one ^^
It's okey to vent but if you do it in front of strangers I doubt they will have a sympathic look on you, here we are all strangers.
I don't try to be rude or anything, it's just that usually when people ask something normally they always get a response.

I hope you get the answers you need.

Thank you. I am genuinely sorry if my rude-ass rant put you in a bad mood.

On deleting this thread however, I don't think I can. Plus, I feel like burying my past posts is kindof a coward move. I'd rather back-peddle than I censor myself or others.

[PositiveDude]

yes coward. redeem yourself !! shame on you!

PS: Can i ask you to open a rude topic saying about how stupid multiple repair is?

The word now is "Multiple Repair"

[Chicago]

Nguyên văn bởi PositiveDude:

yes coward. redeem yourself !! shame on you!

PS: Can i ask you to open a rude topic saying about how stupid multiple repair is?

The word now is "Multiple Repair"

The combo of your name and your first sentence got a good laugh out of me!

Probably gonna refrain from venting on the internet for a while, didn't seem to go too well.

[ModerateOsprey]

I was actually pretty impressed with the control scheme as it handles all inputs simultaneously - mouse, keyboard and controller.

Been a long while since I last played so did the tuts last night and then created a custom start and just practised flying around and remapped keys/controller buttons to suit me. I also have a simple gaming mouse and and so have set flight modes to buttons on that.

You can also save these custom setups as profiles which I think is pretty cool.

[The Big Brzezinski]

I could stand for menus and especially the map to be more Windows-ish. Select a whole list with Ctrl A, drag a box to select a group of ships on the map, stuff like that. But I doubt it would be very controller friendly.

Flying with mouse and keyboard, though, that's just dandy. I'm particularly fond of the fade away, i.e. charge at a target, kill the flight assist, flip around, and continue blasting as it gives chase without evading while you drift away backwards at full speed. About the only problem I have is I can never remember which keys deploy flares.

[Percopius]

The thing is, X4 has about as many options to bind keys, controls, joysticks, etc... to control / functions as a flight sim. It has two slots for every function, and has the ability to save as many profiles as you want, and comes with several profiles for things like controller, Saitek, etc...

When I first started playing, I made a very detailed profile that I still have saved, but lately I just use the default setup, with just Stop on Cap-Lock, map on V, and the quick menu on `. The last thing I would complain about in the game is the key / controller / joystick binding system. There are other things that need work more than key binds, like some way reducing CPU load through abstraction or something -- I mean the way the game is designed you can bring ANY rig to its knees, but I would not mind playing the game with some more abstraction and entity limitations to keep it at a target frame rate, like 60. But I digress, excuse me.

[NPC]

Nguyên văn bởi Percopius:

It has two slots for every function

Fun fact: it has more than two slots for almost every function. You can add more lines manually to the inputmap.xml file. I do this pretty heavily for my super-customized four-controller setup.

[GenXGamer]

Confirmed. The keyboard mapping was designed by xcom aliens who've never played a 'human' video game.

Been playing video games for decades and never experienced a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ default keyboard setup.

For a while I thought there was a some bug that transported me back to my ship. no....my brain instinctively wants to pinky press shift to run like 99.9 percent of the games out there.
well, shift-d brings you back to ship. aliens.

[NPC]

Nguyên văn bởi GenXGamer:

Confirmed. The keyboard mapping was designed by xcom aliens who've never played a 'human' video game.

Re. Map. The. Controls.

[GenXGamer]

Stick. To. Industry. Norms.

[Oddible]

Nguyên văn bởi GenXGamer:

Stick. To. Industry. Norms.

Funny, plays pretty normal to me. They've basically set everything up similarly to other games I have and have provided a direct way to change it if you want to customize it = industry norm. So edit it. Why is it a big deal? You got no chill.

[Lander1]

I use Mouse and Keyboard for walking around and using the map, when I fly I swap to Dual T16000m Flight sticks. Takes a few minutes to set them up in the beginning but well worth the effort. Roll pitch and yaw on the right stick xyz (z is twisting the stick) and strafe and throttle on the left xyz. I love the throttle as twist on the left hand stick it reminds me of a space bike like the cycroader II from Lensman.