How does this compare to X3?

[lazarusblack]

Hey all.

I've been a long time fan of the X series, going back to X:BTF.

I'll admit, I've not always been a fan of every title and there have been some I flat out didn't like. Loved Xtension, hated X2. Loved X3 and TC/AP. Gave the one after that, a hard pass. Since X4 was released, I needed a major upgrade to my pc which I now have.

If I was entirely honest, X:Tension was probably my favourite version I was still young enough to appreciate it's breadth and scope, the series was new enough that the upgrade from the original made it seem so much bigger and better.

But X3 probably set the bar in terms of stability and polish.

So my question is, how does X4 stand up against X3? I expect the story to be pretty bad, as it's never really been that good (apologies to writers over at ES) But in terms of gameplay, exploration, trade and station development. Does it retain what made X3 great, while building on that in a meaningful and interesting way? Or is it more like EVE online now, with a significant focus on capital ships and grander scale warfare?

[Drageta]

Postat inițial de Bozz 💀:

Postat inițial de Drageta:

Are there any differences in the starts story-wise and in general? Leaning towards the Terran cadett start at the moment.

only in the beginning, but you will have access to everything else whatever start you choose

Postat inițial de CyberEagle:

Postat inițial de Drageta:

Are there any differences in the starts story-wise and in general? Leaning towards the Terran cadett start at the moment.

Well, the Terran Cadet has somewhat bad starting relations to most factions, but nothing you can't fix during gameplay.

Postat inițial de Drunio:

Postat inițial de CyberEagle:

Well, the Terran Cadet has somewhat bad starting relations to most factions, but nothing you can't fix during gameplay.

There are also a few achievements that are locked into starting with the DLC races. The only other thing I can think to mention is that if you restart too often like me theres now a feature that unlocks more things for a custom start depending on how far you advanced in the game.

Extremely nice addition as it gives players like me something to strive for that feels like decent advancement.

Thanks for the replies :)

[lazarusblack]

Postat inițial de lefty1117:

On a related note some of the voice acting is not particularly convincing, to put it in a gentle way. Those are things that I think can actually be addressed at some point if they choose to do so. Not gamebreakers, but sometimes annoyign.

lol VA has always been awful for the english addition. I suspect the german voice acting might be abit better, but every game in the series has had really bad VA. I remember in the original X, the only characters that didn't sound bad, were the Teladi and that had more to do with their way of speaking in clipped, broken english to start with.

No, strong voice acting has never been a selling point for this series.

[Old Man Gibb]

The differences I have noticed so far that make a noticeable change in the game for me.
1. no trade stock market. ( I really miss that )
2. Not being able to set buy / sell prices to what ever I want.
3. Simple UI like in X3 TC, this UI just sucks. ( To much stuff hidden in areas that don't make sence )
4. Every builder ship look the same, ( Lazy development IMO )
5. All the Faction except Xenon, just sit and chill. No war between the factions. ( I'm 80 hrs into this save and the xenon have taken 3/4 of the systems. )
6. Trade system is broken. even having 3 star + captains does not help. ( I end up doing mostly manual trading as they just don't go any place.
6.1 The trade for commander setting is broken. the traders just do laps around the station.

Now the Good, the universe is absolutely awesome. Most of the ships are way cool, ( Argon Elite sucks ) the lore is pretty cool. Voice acting is a lot better but could still use some work. All together it's not a bad game, Buts it's not as good as X3 TC was.
This is My opinion.

[lazarusblack]

I think I'll give it a pass for the time being.

A few too many detractions for my liking. But I'll keep and eye on it and see if things improve.

[Bozz 💀]

Postat inițial de Old Man Gibb:

The differences I have noticed so far that make a noticeable change in the game for me.
1. no trade stock market. ( I really miss that )
2. Not being able to set buy / sell prices to what ever I want.
3. Simple UI like in X3 TC, this UI just sucks. ( To much stuff hidden in areas that don't make sence )
4. Every builder ship look the same, ( Lazy development IMO )
5. All the Faction except Xenon, just sit and chill. No war between the factions. ( I'm 80 hrs into this save and the xenon have taken 3/4 of the systems. )
6. Trade system is broken. even having 3 star + captains does not help. ( I end up doing mostly manual trading as they just don't go any place.
6.1 The trade for commander setting is broken. the traders just do laps around the station.

Now the Good, the universe is absolutely awesome. Most of the ships are way cool, ( Argon Elite sucks ) the lore is pretty cool. Voice acting is a lot better but could still use some work. All together it's not a bad game, Buts it's not as good as X3 TC was.
This is My opinion.

1: I mean that was just a cheat in x3, was even easier making money with that then installing cheat menu... laziest way I have ever seen for making money...

2: That's actually possible in x4

3: That's subjective.

4: It's just builder ships, you are not meant to fly them and they are just meant to transport building drones, why would they look different ? those are useless ships for player and would just be a waste of ressources...

5: If you not happy how wars plays out in the game install some mods and you will see a lot more destruction. I had several games where some factions got destroyed...
And in x3 war was as static as it can be...

6: I have played 1500 hours and I'm really curious on how it's broken ? I'm always playing as trader myself and have hundreds of ships, trading stations, mining complex and everything works very well...

6.1: Then something is wrong with your station setup, It's easy to say something is broken but sometimes it's just that something prevents your ships from doing their job.