Project Genesis Start?!

[Traslo]

Seriously, what is with this start. Just chucking us straight out of terran space inside 5 full minutes and back to Grand Exchange to do the HQ again, but now we've got no money and no satellites. It seems this start was just there to be an inconvenience and of course there's never any SETA in the starts anymore so you can't even expedite the main mission which forces you to repair the HQ with a hangar or you can't progress it.

[Zloth]

You've got money. THOUSANDS of credits! More than some characters get paid for weeks of extremely dangerous work!

No idea why you're wanting SETA. Do you sit and watch the hanger get built??

[Brannagan]

I've just hit that part, happily flying through terran space doing missions then BOOM back at GE with next to nothing twiddling my thumbs until the dock's built... Yes I could explore but I want to be pure terran, I want to build up the terran empire with fleets of traders and miners and I want to be xenophobic towards all the other races! But no, forced to interact with the water guy building a station i'll completely ignore after this

[Traslo]

Originally posted by Zloth:

You've got money. THOUSANDS of credits! More than some characters get paid for weeks of extremely dangerous work!

No idea why you're wanting SETA. Do you sit and watch the hanger get built??

All 5000 out of the 250k-300k you need just to get that hangar to do any story progression, on top of hiring a constructor. Remember this start teleports you so you get given a ship with no satellites as well so you have to find a constructor in the flesh.

I shouldn't have to go do random missions to make progress on such an immediate mission, especially when it just chucked me a 20 minute trip away from my home territory.

As for SETA, anyone who wants to do economic stuff wants SETA. The fact we have to go grind through RNG combat drops to get it is infuriating and is half the reason I never want to boot up a new start on X4.

[Majestic Blue Falcon]

I don't like the PHQ being in GE for every start, but the money thing is a non issue. Boso gives you money. I've gotten around 300k every time. Don't build the dock right away. Use the money you have to build a S miner/trader to get some income flowing. It's a grind no matter which start you pick and there is no way around it without mods. If you're playing vanilla then go park up against a Xenon station and farm the drones. That's how I make quick cash, plus the additional bonus of early SETA.

[Traslo]

Originally posted by Majestic Blue Falcon:

I don't like the PHQ being in GE for every start, but the money thing is a non issue. Boso gives you money. I've gotten around 300k every time. Don't build the dock right away. Use the money you have to build a S miner/trader to get some income flowing. It's a grind no matter which start you pick and there is no way around it without mods. If you're playing vanilla then go park up against a Xenon station and farm the drones. That's how I make quick cash, plus the additional bonus of early SETA.

On Genesis Start, he gave me no money at all. I know he would usually if I did the Val Selton start, but in this case he gave me none.

[cwsumner]

You know you can still run your empire remotely, right?

I think he gave me money, but I am not sure because I had been trading and had a small station and brought money with me. I can imagine that if I only had the beginning ship it would have been more of a shock... 8-)

[blackphoenixx]

If not getting 5 free satellites at the start breaks the game for you i'm not sure how you even got far enough for the PHQ plot.
It's not like money is hard to get. Maybe instead of wishing for SETA so you can watch the timer tick down faster you could go out and earn some.

I also don't see why you think you should be able to finish the HQ plot without needing to do anything to earn money first. That's pretty much required with every start except the Accomplished Scientist one.

Even if you could there's really no point getting the HQ if you don't have a basic economy up and running. It won't do anything by itself after all.
Or should the game give you that too so all you have to do is activate SETA and wait?

As for the SETA parts if you really want it just set a loot collector or two at the borders of HOP space and you'll have SETA within a few hours, with a few mil in extra parts to sell on top of it. No grinding necessary.

[Mansen]

Literally what OP. I picked Genesis as my first X4 start ever and had absolutely ZERO issues scraping money together for an M miner within an hour and getting that steam rolling.

[tynian87116]

1 mil within 2 hours just flying around the astronimically large asteroid fields around GQ and surrounding areas with the starter ship you get. Sent my free captain to the Rapier and had it finds way to GQ thus establishing a route back to Sol within that time, then had it run missions to places to buy equipment to knock out the acquisition phase of construction. Once more, within that window. If anything, I'm glad for the start because I got a free ship, metric ton of cash and a free Osprey as well as a free captain.

Ifya didn't know, there's an abandoned Osprey along the main course in the final sector that you go to to escort the decoy. You start with a suit scanner so, overtaking it is as simple as finding the data leak.

I know this thread is being necroed by me, but, I'm undead, what do ya expect? Mainly putting this our there for others who might feel stuck, but, as an aside, if someone wants to do a strict terran RP, this isn't the run for you from the gitgo as the protagonist you play is a separatist that's focused on exploring alien space.

[SpaceToast]

just go sell the abandoned oddy, plenty of money for the phq and some modules.

[Zloth]

Originally posted by tynian87116:

You start with a suit scanner so, overtaking it is as simple as finding the data leak.

Not unless something changed in 4.1. Fly around that ship all you want, you'll never find the red dot. For whatever reason, you MUST capture it with a marine. It's the only ship in the game that does that.

P.S. To the probably-long-gone OP: this is Egosoft, there are very few "immediate" quests.

[ormac]

I built the dock in 3-4 hours just using the 40-50k I'd gathered from start the early missions. Had to do trade runs and missions a stuff around GE but of course got there. Feel the satellite repairs should have paid something.

I'd probably hate to try and supply the terran blueprints to do it.

[Evil Music Dude]

sorry about necro'ing this thread but gotta love how people comment without paying attention to what was happening in the game. LOL @ the people thinking boso is giving out free money not tied to the PHQ (must have been a thing in an earlier version of the game).
if anyone else comes across this because the terran starts are so weird, just remember that the game doesn't want you completing the main missions before you get an economy running (aka worry about earning credits first, worry about missions later)