how to protect my owned sector ?

[anguelwyvern]

ok a bit of background, i took control of grand exchange sector (3 small parts), and made my main production/ trade hub there, and even though in blue with everyone, from time to time pillager/pirate/ etc etc, suddenly pop up in scan and just harrass my miners/trader, 70% of the time they escape, but not always and its really annoying to try everytime to get manually a ship to go and intercept it (keep in mind these "pirate" are blue when entering the system ...)
so here the question, isnt there ANY way to set a ship (fleet) to actually patrol a sector and rush to the aid of my miners/trader if they ever need ? its bloody annoying to have every 30 sec, havign a call "hey a pirate asked me to drop my cargo" and if i say excape 20 sec later i get a death message ...
even more annoying when i do have 20+ katana fully armed, in the actual sector

i know i could set a katana to follow each trader/miner, but no thats not what i want, an actual patrol, is it possible ?

[Bullpup]

Not sure why the pirates are harassing your miners, they always leave mine alone (the Kha'ak otoh do go for miners).

You need to get some fast S ships and set them to Police default behaviour. They will scan around and unmask any SCAs. The more you have the better, the faster they are the better. Have a few combat ships assigned to protect commander (station) and they will instantly intercept any unmasked SCAs that try to approach.

For your miners if it really is pirates, then you need an armed escort. Try a small cheap fighter - all my ships have one and they never have problems. Alternatively (/in addition to) get a well equipped combat ship, set it to 'repeat order' default behaviour and give it multiple 'attack targets in range' orders in the areas your miners go to.

[anguelwyvern]

so if i understand i can set up some S ship ? will the gladius works (terran heavy fighter)? because any smaller and i dont think they will survive
still thank you very much for the info ! didnt knew S ship could patrol thank you so much !

[Don Quijote]

Usually its a phoenix SCA destroyer, pirating in that sector so you need at least one L-sized fast guard ship, i use paranid Odyssey with 2 M sized Osprey fitted with plasma cannons. And i constructed small defence platforms in important spots with the fire rule to attack any sca ship. I think you should invest some money into protection of your capital sector

[anguelwyvern]

Originally posted by {ESP}Don Quijote:

I think you should invest some money into protection of your capital sector

i do have 20 ish katana with 2 falx, and the syn (given from terran mission)

my problem its not firepower, but more like, when it happens its most of the time too late to do anything :(
im also a bit worried on putting the SCA in RED because of the hatikva questline ;(

[Bozz 💀]

SCA never goes red, you can freely shoot them they'll always stay -5

[anguelwyvern]

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

SCA never goes red, you can freely shoot them they'll always stay -5

interesting even if i declare war on them ?
if so then yeah that amazing !

[JMW58]

There is a way to ally with SCA and they will not raid you anymore because they are friends with you.

[Bozz 💀]

Originally posted by anguelwyvern:

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

SCA never goes red, you can freely shoot them they'll always stay -5

interesting even if i declare war on them ?
if so then yeah that amazing !

I've boarded like 50 SCA destroyers they are still -5, if you declare war on them they will engage with your ships more often I think, sometimes they just fly in your space but don't do anything or go somewhere else, I once had a patrol engage a minautor and then 2 SCA destroyers showed up with a few M ships , lost a few katanas there

[anguelwyvern]

tbh im going to rush the hatikvah missions, and then just bulldozer these fu...
SCA bloody annoying :@

[Bullpup]

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

SCA never goes red, you can freely shoot them they'll always stay -5

But I strongly suspect there's some hidden 'lever' if you aggro the SCA too much that prompts them to go after your station storages and traders in a much more focused way. If I board >2 SCA L's in quick succession I'm almost certain to get a retaliation attack back on a Claytronics or Computronic Substrate storage, sometimes a fully kitted L trader will be deleted without any prior distress notifications.

[anguelwyvern]

damn i feel like SCA is more of a pain than xenon are

[Bozz 💀]

Originally posted by Bullpup:

Originally posted by Bozz 💀:

SCA never goes red, you can freely shoot them they'll always stay -5

But I strongly suspect there's some hidden 'lever' if you aggro the SCA too much that prompts them to go after your station storages and traders in a much more focused way. If I board >2 SCA L's in quick succession I'm almost certain to get a retaliation attack back on a Claytronics or Computronic Substrate storage, sometimes a fully kitted L trader will be deleted without any prior distress notifications.

Yeah I suspected that too when I had 2 behemoths and a bunch of M combat ships in my sector ^^

[JMW58]

How to Ally with SCA They will start gaining and losing rep of you talk to there HQ leader.

[thekins]

Originally posted by Bullpup:

Not sure why the pirates are harassing your miners, they always leave mine alone (the Kha'ak otoh do go for miners).

You need to get some fast S ships and set them to Police default behaviour. They will scan around and unmask any SCAs. The more you have the better, the faster they are the better. Have a few combat ships assigned to protect commander (station) and they will instantly intercept any unmasked SCAs that try to approach.

For your miners if it really is pirates, then you need an armed escort. Try a small cheap fighter - all my ships have one and they never have problems. Alternatively (/in addition to) get a well equipped combat ship, set it to 'repeat order' default behaviour and give it multiple 'attack targets in range' orders in the areas your miners go to.

Repeat attack enemies in area doesnt work at all
the only time that works is if you set the ship to defend 1 single area on repeat

if you tell 1 ship to attack all ships in an area then tell him like 3 bubbles to defend if he is currently in bubble 1 and an enemy is in bubble 3 he will not do anything until he has (with travel drive turned off) flown like 120km THEN go ohhhhh that ship DW I GOT IT BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[JMW58]

Originally posted by thekins:

Originally posted by Bullpup:

Not sure why the pirates are harassing your miners, they always leave mine alone (the Kha'ak otoh do go for miners).

You need to get some fast S ships and set them to Police default behaviour. They will scan around and unmask any SCAs. The more you have the better, the faster they are the better. Have a few combat ships assigned to protect commander (station) and they will instantly intercept any unmasked SCAs that try to approach.

For your miners if it really is pirates, then you need an armed escort. Try a small cheap fighter - all my ships have one and they never have problems. Alternatively (/in addition to) get a well equipped combat ship, set it to 'repeat order' default behaviour and give it multiple 'attack targets in range' orders in the areas your miners go to.

Repeat attack enemies in area doesnt work at all
the only time that works is if you set the ship to defend 1 single area on repeat

if you tell 1 ship to attack all ships in an area then tell him like 3 bubbles to defend if he is currently in bubble 1 and an enemy is in bubble 3 he will not do anything until he has (with travel drive turned off) flown like 120km THEN go ohhhhh that ship DW I GOT IT BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That is why you have 4 to 5 ships assigned to the same attack order and stagger them out.