3080 CTD?

[HekatonCheires]

i try to play this game, but can not finish even tutorial...
almost more than 20 times try but...
sudden CTD always.

another game runs good. so i think this is X4 problem.
any good news?

"X4-275 - Lost Device - GeForce 30-series feedback" page open all the time after CTD..
nothing useful information.

so sad about this. :(


10700K, 32ram, rtx3080 strix

[NoDMoD]

You should post that in the technical support sub forum.

[Hanzmeister]

Me too man. I've played for 80 hours and sometimes the CTD happen after few minutes, sometimes after hours. I've got RTX 3080. I've been in contact with dev and he said that they are aware of it and trying to resolve it with Nvidia. I had to try to underclock my GPU, but it didn't helped. Just need to wait for a patch and keep "quick" saving the game often.

[Zalzany]

Sounds like driver issue with nvidia, not the game itself. ♥♥♥♥ like this happens all the time when you got the latest new gen of cardsSome how its always the games job to fix it, when its an issue not on their end. And yes bad gpu drivers will work on some games and fail on others. I had same issues with one of my brand new fancy cards ages ago, when BF4 came out it hated my GPU for months, was only game that really didn't like the drivers, but sure enough eventually the GPU did an update that fixed it not the game devs

[eMYNOCK]

@OP
I have deleted your duplicate Topic.

Please try to follow the advise given on the Page that opens after the Crash.

https://www.egosoft.com:8443/jira/browse/X4-275


On an informative Note:
A Device Lost error can mean a multitude of Problems.

From faulty Drivers to insufficient Power... it can be anything.


Please try to install the latest mentioned Drivers, make sure your System has sufficient Power and that you can rule out any Hardware malfunctions.


Should you have no Options left please contact our support Member via the provided Mail on the Page.

[HekatonCheires]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

@OP
I have deleted your duplicate Topic.

Please try to follow the advise given on the Page that opens after the Crash.

https://www.egosoft.com:8443/jira/browse/X4-275


On an informative Note:
A Device Lost error can mean a multitude of Problems.

From faulty Drivers to insufficient Power... it can be anything.


Please try to install the latest mentioned Drivers, make sure your System has sufficient Power and that you can rule out any Hardware malfunctions.


Should you have no Options left please contact our support Member via the provided Mail on the Page.

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I think this error from X4 or nvidia driver not from setting.
Literally, no other game make CTD, Zero, 0 other game.
sometimes I play long sometimes meet few CTD in 5min.
i dont know why but you have to find out.
hope fix this ASAP

Recently i really enjoy this game, please dont make me stop.

[AlPhi]

@ OP: Do you have a Nvidia driver later than Hot Fix 461.33 which was the first driver to address the Nvidia 30xx Lost Device CTD issue with X4?

[mauserna]

I was also having the same issue, my computer would crash every 10 to 20 minutes using the latest nVidia Drivers (461.44 I think). I did find a way to limit the frequency of the crashes, which appear to occur in cycles during gameplay. I noticed that the crash was happening when my GPU was extremely hot around 80c. This probably occurrs due to spikes in power when X4 is making more demands of the GPU workload. Remember the 3080 draws much more power than previous generations. With additional power consumption comes heat, so to solve this we need to disipate as much heat as possible.

So in order to avoid the heat buildup, I simply run MSI Afterburner in the background (great program as it appears to be compatible with nvidia cards made by other manufactures) with a pretty aggressive Fan Curve to keep the Temperatures down on the GPU. It is very important however not to overclock your GPU and keep it GPU running at stock performance. It might also be helpful to remove any overclock to your CPU and Memory (including XMP Profiles) as these settings will also increase heat within the computer case. Remember heat is the enemy in this situation we have to keep the GPU cool.

A recommend you watch a youtube video by JayTwoCents called "Simple ways to increase GPU performance for FREE". Pay close attention to the portion discussing setup of the Fan Curve within MSI Afterfurner. Ignore the part about overclocking, this is important as the goal again is to limit heat buildup within the GPU. I found that this solution, greatly diminishes the crashes is suffered during gameplay. Now instead of getting a crash every 20 minutes, I only get one every 4 to 5 hours, which in my opinion makes the game playable.

For your information my setup is: 9900K CPU, EVGA Geforce 3080, and 32 Gigs of Ram, Running X4 Foundations Beta 4 Patch 8.

I hope this solution helps you and anybody else running into this issue, it did for me, and have been having a blast playing X4 Foundations. Best of luck.

[HekatonCheires]

Originally posted by mauserna:

I was also having the same issue with the latest nVidia Drivers. I did find a way to limit the inter-mitten crashes, which appear to occur in cycles within the game. I noticed that the crash was happening as a result of over heat on the GPU itself, probably due to spikes in power. Remember the 3080 draws much more power than previous generations. So in order to avoid this, I simply run MSI Afterburner in the background with a pretty aggressive Fan Curve to keep the Temperatures down on the GPU. It is very important to keep your GPU at stock performance, just increase the fan curve.

A great youtube video which discusses overclocking in GPU which talks about the Fan Curve and how I modified it was from JayTwoCents called "Simple ways to increase GPU performance for FREE". However in this case, It is very important to keep your GPU at stock performance, just increase the fan curve like JayTwoCents did. I found that this solution, greatly diminishes the crashes. Now instead of getting a crash every 20 minutes, I usually only get one every 4 to 5 hours, which in my opinion makes the game playable.

For your information my setup is: 9900K CPU, EVGA Geforce 3080, and 32 Gigs of Ram, Running X4 Foundations Beta 4 Patch 8.

I hope this helps you, it did for me, and have been having a blast playing the game. Best of luck.

thanks for practical reply first.

my system consist 10700k, asus 3080 rog strix, 32gb
and max temperature of GPU is only 66C.
PSU is seasonic gold gx-850

i think this will be more than enough to run X4 with pretty good setting.
also actual performance include temperature is also stable.
but CTD is happen. nvidia driver ver is updated. ( i will wait next update for this, dont want to roll back old version.)

anyway, even that temperature, i will try to adjust fan curve.
hope this will work to me too
thanks again :D

[mauserna]

Originally posted by HekatonCheires:

Originally posted by mauserna:

I was also having the same issue with the latest nVidia Drivers. I did find a way to limit the inter-mitten crashes, which appear to occur in cycles within the game. I noticed that the crash was happening as a result of over heat on the GPU itself, probably due to spikes in power. Remember the 3080 draws much more power than previous generations. So in order to avoid this, I simply run MSI Afterburner in the background with a pretty aggressive Fan Curve to keep the Temperatures down on the GPU. It is very important to keep your GPU at stock performance, just increase the fan curve.

A great youtube video which discusses overclocking in GPU which talks about the Fan Curve and how I modified it was from JayTwoCents called "Simple ways to increase GPU performance for FREE". However in this case, It is very important to keep your GPU at stock performance, just increase the fan curve like JayTwoCents did. I found that this solution, greatly diminishes the crashes. Now instead of getting a crash every 20 minutes, I usually only get one every 4 to 5 hours, which in my opinion makes the game playable.

For your information my setup is: 9900K CPU, EVGA Geforce 3080, and 32 Gigs of Ram, Running X4 Foundations Beta 4 Patch 8.

I hope this helps you, it did for me, and have been having a blast playing the game. Best of luck.

thanks for practical reply first.

my system consist 10700k, asus 3080 rog strix, 32gb
and max temperature of GPU is only 66C.
PSU is seasonic gold gx-850

i think this will be more than enough to run X4 with pretty good setting.
also actual performance include temperature is also stable.
but CTD is happen. nvidia driver ver is updated. ( i will wait next update for this, dont want to roll back old version.)

anyway, even that temperature, i will try to adjust fan curve.
hope this will work to me too
thanks again :D

You should also check your computer case and make sure it has adequate airflow. I remember a friend of mine had is computer tucked away inside a cabinet, because his wife did not like the look of the computer. It would crash all the time due to lack of Airflow.

You are right, GPU should be stable at 66c. Your computer specs are also more than capable for running X4 without issues.

So I decided to review the temps for my GPU, during my last play session; they sat around 58c the majority of the time, however I did see spikes in GPU temp! These spikes did not go above 64c during the entire session (about 3 hours).

Hope this helps. best of luck.

[blizard]

hi you have same specs as me but runing gpu 280ti its your psu 850 go for 1200 psu

this is my best gess had a 850 psu did not cope

[MaGicBush]

Originally posted by blizard:

hi you have same specs as me but runing gpu 280ti its your psu 850 go for 1200 psu

this is my best gess had a 850 psu did not cope

850 watt is plenty of power. 750 watt is recommended for a 3080/3090 with I5/17 CPU's, and 850 watt is recommended for thread ripper/I9 unless you have the 3090 w/ thread ripper/HEDT. The OP has an I7 and the 3080 so 850 is more than enough.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidias-rtx-3000-power-supply-requirements-PSU-shortage-2020

It is most definitely driver related. New GPU's always have issues with drivers, and the RTX 3000x series cards seem worse than previous generations for some reason. I see reports on almost every game I play of people having issues with them.

[Hanzmeister]

There are new drivers for Nvidia (461.72). There is something fixed for X4 ([X4: Foundations][Vulkan]: The application crashes when launched on Windows 10 (Version 1803)), and I think it worked, because since drivers update I had no crash anymore!!!

EDIT: Oh. I have W10 1909, so maybe it was luck, or maybe it work even for this version.

[Hanzmeister]

OK, maybe it is a little better, but it crashed again. :(

[redeyedraven]

Personally, whenever I install new Nvidia-drivers, I also select the fresh installation. Leftover files from old drivers can cause issues too.

Another thing to check out when it comes to GPU-related crashes would be the OS itself. For example, when I got my current PC I had Windows 10 pre-installed, but for some reason it had issues with DirectX on several games and DX-drivers couldn't be renewed. An inplace-upgrade (basically the MS-online-repair-installation) fixed that.

Also, hate to say it, but constant driver-crashes can also point towards defective hardware.

One of my old GPU's had constant driver-crashes for a few years (on a few specific games) and then it stopped working entirely.

[LazyMKII]

Where did you get 3080? :))))