Best fighter ship?

[select_21]

Starting out my journey. I have a lot of hours in this game but no saved game past 20 hours or so. I writing a back story for my character and my vision for my pilot is to be commanding forces from a "formidable fighter" and be in the midst of all the action.

What are some recommendations? Most of my hours before were spent developing my miners/traders and trade hubs so focusing on combat will be a lot newer to me.

[Project Danny]

Publicado originalmente por Lucifer69:

Publicado originalmente por Project Danny:

The yaki have the fastest fighter in the game I have one and its almost at 10k travel speed. Its amazing for scouting too.

I'm pretty sure the Xenon T is the fastest ship in the game. I assume that's the ship you are referring to since it has 10,487 m/s as it's unmodified speed with the Terran Travel Mk3 (I spawned one in on my modded save with the cheat menu to verify).

That said, I'll prolly end up sending the ship to its death because it only has 1200 Mw hull and 1552 Mw shield capacity (with the best shield, Teladi Mk3). For some comparison, my Dragon with Tau Accelerators Mk2's does 810 Mw hull and 810 Mw shield damage. I can two shot that ship with just one cannon, and I have 6 of them. Modified, only a single one is needed to delete it. Speed won't matter once you are in range of anything bigger than a light fighter.

I wonder if the thing can break 15k to 20k travel speed though with mods.

Granted, this is a light scout vs a corvette, but this corvette is so light relative to others that it may as well be considered a heavy fighter.

No I mean the Yaki fighter ship you get like 2 for free from quests and you van buy them at the yaki station. With argon travel speed engines they can go to almost 10k travel speed. I use them for scouting the universe.

[Valhalla Awaits]

Publicado originalmente por -Ripper-:

Publicado originalmente por Oddible:

The ships people usually mention in this are:

- Dragon (you want the one from the ZYA not the one from the FRF, you don't want the Dragon Raider.
Load it up with Tau Accelerators and zoom through combat with your shotguns blasting everything in front of you

- Nemesis Vanguard - This was the ship of choice til the Split expansion came out

- Katana - this is the new contender, not sure how it fares but seems fun

After that as you move up into destroyers:

- Rattlesnake - this thing is a beast, so many main batteries! Short range
- Odysseus - looks like a hairdryer but delivers a beating. Perfect mix of more guns and long range
- Behemoth - Fan favorite, not my fave personall - basically just a tank, slow and low number of guns

Terran Syn battleship (old school) no idea why they say that.. its stronger then the modern version.. also have 3 main frontal guns (you control) and 8 Large turrets and 2 Medium Turrets.. i am about to test it vs Xenon Battleships.. dough there is a Xenon Type i (the gigant Xenon that shoot down any other battleship in seconds) .. we need a same strong Ship that they have :)

wow it melted the Xenon K version fast. love it

Just to clarify the Syn is not a battleship, it's a destroyer. (Though it is the heaviest destroyer in the game currently.) There are only two battleships in the game currently, and that is the Xenon I that you mentioned, and the new Terran Asgard. Battleships are on a whole other level compared to destroyers. XL shields, WAY more guns, (2-5x times as many depending on which is being compared) and the Asgard has the game's first superweapon that outright instantly deletes everything but a raptor, another Asgard, or the Xenon I battleship. And will cripple even one of those. Also battleships are physically MUCH larger than destroyers.

Just wanted to prevent future confusion when you throw the word battleship around and people look at you confused.

[Lich Lord]

Publicado originalmente por -Ripper-:

Best terran fighter is the Katana... it fly 500-600 m/s (only earth ship that does this) its a medium ship and use Proton Barrage 2 ...those kill anything medium or down instant...

Rest of earth ship are meeehh.. the gunship is good in a swarm with all plasma turrets...then they can take out destroyers fast..

very wierd even the fighter and interceptors"" of Earth all slow as a bulky capital ship ..

To be fair most Terrans were locked behind gates so their ships evolved to defend carriers and slow battleships and stations. They didn't need to rush out and meet the enemy. They are defensive.

[Project Danny]

Its stupid that no other factions have any battleships but terran and Xenon. No wonder they are all getting roflstomped all the time and losing battles.

[Lucifer69]

I mean, torpedoes are a thing. The Nemesis needs only 5 of them to delete anything in the game. The only problem is having enough torpedoes, but you can mitigate this by having a spare Nemesis to jump to once you run out. At 5, you can wipe out the capitals of any fleet incredibly quick with plenty of torpedoes to spare. And stations? Pfft.

Split has the Dragon and Dragon Raider, which both can pretty much do the same thing. Argon has several heavy fighters which can easily function as a station delete button.

The problem isn't the ships, stations, or stats. It's the ai being so gimped. Just look at mining and how broken it still is since Version 2,6, I believe. There's a couple mods out that try to correct this and improve the ai in general. Make it too aggressive and the Xenon get deleted in just a couple game days.

[Atlar]

Split Dragon is such a blast to play... damn, probably the best thing about the Split DLC, besides the Raptor.

[Lucifer69]

I like the Asgard myself, granted it's definitely not a fighter. But MAXIMUM DAKKA. It's always amazing that enemy fighters swarm the front of the ship despite the massive laser that's firing on a station or capital. Everything just gets noped out of existence instantly.

As for an actual fighter, the Asp is my favorite player ship. It's such a lovely sight when you have about 50 of these guys with Neutron Gatlings. An absolute hornets nest, even if they kind of suck.

In truth, I used to use fighters as a chaff. Literally just cannon fodder and missile bait as my destroyers killed everything from range. The Eclipse and Buzzard Sentinels were pretty much my go to's (added bonus I could load them with torpedoes for fast station delete buttons).

Now, I just fly the Asgard and watch the ai derp itself into the giant death beam. That, or I pilot my Katana or Jian and watch the Asgard murder the ♥♥♥♥ out everything. There's like 80 Gladius that rarely need to be used aside from keeping fighters busy until the 2 Asgards clean house.

[winslm]

For my first upgrade after the starter ship I like the Argon Eclipse. It is a lot tougher than other fighters. For early game you are doing some quests personally, so I like the ship to be able to take some hits.

[blackphoenixx]

The tankiest fighter in vanilla is the Ares, but it's so clumsy and slow without drag/engine mods that it takes all the fun out of flying one imo.
Same applies to most of the heavier fighters.

Also the best stat for survival in an S-sized ship is speed since their shields regen to full after not being hit for a few seconds. With PAR shields and mods you can get that time below 4 seconds which is easy to get when you fly something fast.
3 S-sized shield gens won't let you tank capital ship weapons any more than 1 will so having more shield generators on an S ship is worth a lot less than you'd think at first glance.

As for ships that are actually fun to fly look at the 2 weapon fighters - you can make up for the lack of gun somewhat with weapon mods, but you can never get one of the slower fighters to be half as nimble and fun to fly as the interceptors.
With engine/drag mods some of them actually strafe faster than the slower fighters fly.

But the best option is still to just try them out for yourself. There aren't that many ships.
If you don't like one just sell it and use the money to try out a different one until you find something you're happy with.

[Atlar]

Terran corvette is pretty nice. 4 weapons, well placed turrets and with Split engines and some upgrades you can reach respectable speed. it's also like a mini carrier with 12 drone slots and s-dock. The thinking man's M fighter

As a fleet ship I mainly use the Aspis. 3 weapons, cheap and suprisingly durable due to it's speed and size. 40 with 3 x Thermo are enough to take down a Xenon I.

[=X-men=]

Publicado originalmente por select_21:

Starting out my journey. I have a lot of hours in this game but no saved game past 20 hours or so. I writing a back story for my character and my vision for my pilot is to be commanding forces from a "formidable fighter" and be in the midst of all the action.

What are some recommendations? Most of my hours before were spent developing my miners/traders and trade hubs so focusing on combat will be a lot newer to me.

Best N is a DPS/speed category pulsar, speed/DPS - chimera, evasion/DPS Asp Raider,
fastest, best N Pegasus, Moreya, balanced one - Takoba
Tanks-ships N - first place Kalis, Ares, Gladius, Eclipse
nice ship model - Theseus Vanguard

Best M -firs place - Katana and all TER and Spilits, Yaki Kuraokami,
All ships with 4+ main weapons, or 3 shields and loot of turrets, and not bad accelerations, and speed
Of course all ships in Vanguard variants.