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gq 23. März 2021 um 7:04
khk pirates spawn
khk pirates constantly showing up from nowhere and raid my miners, I am losing miners fast, even those well armed ones. anyone know how to deal with pirate raids?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sola Di Ryuvia:
What Luisedgm said. The devs decided to nerf mining by "making it more dangerous" along with make it spawn slower (your universe will run out if you have too many miners now). I would suggest asking the devs to revert that "popular" change. Until then buy tons of escorts and mount only the heaviest dmg turrets on your miners.
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if you are being attacked every once in a while seemingly at random in random sectors, thats one thing that you can do nothing about other than providing escorts for your miners or paying attention to them on the map ( and setting their individual behavior to flee when under attack).

It's a different scenario if they are under constant attack in one particular sector. In this case, there is a khaak base somewhere in the sector and you can either provide a lot of protection, or find the base and destroy it.

Yes i agree it is annoying either way, but not impossible to deal with.
hurepoix 23. März 2021 um 8:32 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Defektiv:
I wish all game developers understood how annoying and immersion breaking it is to just spawn enemies on top of the player. It doesn't make the game harder it just makes it dumb.

I dont feel it is immersion breaking. For some reasons Kha ak tend to react to over mining, like giant worms do on Dune (it is my2 cents, everybody can find its own explanation.)

And yes it makes the game harder, and I had to adapt ; a sizable part of my early cash, have now to go on military and defense, instead full economy. You have now strategic decisions to take, with a degree of risks depending what you do (or what you dont do).

On an other hand I dont feel new mining system makes game harder for exemple. It just makes it longer. (just for comparison)
khk don't really spawn randomlry, if you go far out in a sector yes the game will teleport some XEN or KHK but only for the player to make things more living.

If you have KHK spawning in randomly in a sector many times it means there is a KHK infestation in the sector, which means there is a KHK station somewhere, you have to scout the area and find it ! and then destroy it which is not a big deal you can do it with a heavy corvette
Also KHK infestation is very good if you need to grind faction reputation as you can kill a lot of KHK and the station will dropp more and more of them
rasabt 23. März 2021 um 8:39 
And it's realy not that bad
if it is "bad" then there's most likly a Base around which you should take out,
otherwise even small Fighter-Squads can take care of every attack.

Heck even the occasional SCA-Rattlesnake is pretty easy to manage with a couple of MK1 Towers.

The only thing i do kinda get is the frustration with the minig-change as a whole,
i'm, after having now played CoH a lot, not a fan. It's nowhere as gamebreaking as some make it out, but the change wasn't great.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von rasabt:
And it's realy not that bad
if it is "bad" then there's most likly a Base around which you should take out,
otherwise even small Fighter-Squads can take care of every attack.

Heck even the occasional SCA-Rattlesnake is pretty easy to manage with a couple of MK1 Towers.

The only thing i do kinda get is the frustration with the minig-change as a whole,
i'm, after having now played CoH a lot, not a fan. It's nowhere as gamebreaking as some make it out, but the change wasn't great.

Yes I agree, I have barely changed my mining habits and if you invest some little time in it you can make some ridiculous income because of some sectors that have crazy yiels in silicon and ore and no one goes there to mine
e.j 23. März 2021 um 8:54 
well there is allways the posibility to give them an escort and/or let combat ships patrol the general mining area.
Astasia 23. März 2021 um 9:18 
I've had two M miners and a L miner in Gaian Prophecy for like 30 hours without a single hostile attack on them or the zone. It's not as simple as "mining spawns khaak," it depends on where you are mining.
Rex 23. März 2021 um 9:38 
check off grid in your sectors i found a station owned by kahak there only by chance my police ships stumbled on it
If you see khaak interfering with your miners in any quantity then look for a hive. Kill the hive. No more khaak. For now anyway.
So after another 4 hours or so after destroying khaak installation I noticed the inactive base icon disappeared. Then i noticed in another sector khaak are attacking miners. Went out and searched for it and lo and behold there is a khaak installation there.

is it possible they can have only 1 per galaxy?

Also, all the khaak ive killed i am not getting any notification of increased faction rep...
Bozz 💀 23. März 2021 um 10:10 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ariochaotik:
So after another 4 hours or so after destroying khaak installation I noticed the inactive base icon disappeared. Then i noticed in another sector khaak are attacking miners. Went out and searched for it and lo and behold there is a khaak installation there.

is it possible they can have only 1 per galaxy?

Also, all the khaak ive killed i am not getting any notification of increased faction rep...

I had 3 stations at some point so I don't think they only have one
Astasia 23. März 2021 um 10:15 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ariochaotik:
Also, all the khaak ive killed i am not getting any notification of increased faction rep...

You only get rep when you kill enemies near a faction station or ship requesting help from what I have seen.
luisedgm 23. März 2021 um 10:49 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bozz 💀:
khk don't really spawn randomlry, if you go far out in a sector yes the game will teleport some XEN or KHK but only for the player to make things more living.

If you have KHK spawning in randomly in a sector many times it means there is a KHK infestation in the sector, which means there is a KHK station somewhere, you have to scout the area and find it ! and then destroy it which is not a big deal you can do it with a heavy corvette
This is wrong, i used cheats to revela all stations and there was no kha'ak installation in my sector, yet my miners are under constant attack permanently.
I also set up two Jian per miner plus 2 Osaka on reaction force and 5 katanas on patrol, none of the patrols ever saw kha'ak moving through the system, they only appear on top of my miners
Takichi 23. März 2021 um 11:02 
Never lost a Single Ship to Khaak Attacks.... Maybe just dont send 20+ Miners Mine in 1 Sector..........

Or just set up a Defense Force to deal with them if it happens.... If you mine so much that you constantly Spawn Khaaks in big Numbers, without a Station than stop mine so much if you dont got any other Reason than "Automining Money" in Mind?
And yeah Defense Force doesnt mean 2-3 Ships, it means a Full Fleet fo 20-30 Fast Fighter, which you should be able to easly afford if you Mine with 10+ Autominer.
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