Why would you ever want a Falx over a Katana?

[Oddible]

What am I missing here? The Falx is a bit of a hull tank but that's about it - the tradeoff in speed is insane. It has one fighter dock but there is really no need to dock them on a frigate. Is there something else?

[Navy~]

I use 2-3 Falx for Boarding Large freighters, with their high crew capacity.

[Oddible]

Got it, perfect for crew and boarding ops.

So just wanna call something out. Everyone saying "it is an excellent ship if fully upgraded" is absurd. If you fully upgrade the Katana it is still even MORE excellent at everything than crew size. You literally don't improve the Falx in any way over the Katana by upgrading it. When people talk about how a ship is good when you upgrade it - remember to compare apples to apples - is it good vs other fully upgraded ships? No. It is the same.

[XIII]

Originally posted by Oddible:

Got it, perfect for crew and boarding ops.

So just wanna call something out. Everyone saying "it is an excellent ship if fully upgraded" is absurd. If you fully upgrade the Katana it is still even MORE excellent at everything than crew size. You literally don't improve the Falx in any way over the Katana by upgrading it. When people talk about how a ship is good when you upgrade it - remember to compare apples to apples - is it good vs other fully upgraded ships? No. It is the same.

Yup, the upgrades dont really matter in comparision. Although fully ugpraded and with split mk4 engines, the Katan is probably so fast you can hardly even control it xD

I actually use terran engines on my Katanas, because the travel drive acceleration is actually really nice. Particuarly for capitals, its much more reliable in combat.

[Axeface]

Boarding, weapon placement, agility, acceleration and deceleration (the falx stops in 1km from full speed travel mode), docked fighter, man the falx is so much better than the katana. The katana is a slippy slidy fat brick, the falx is a a sword ;p

When you turn the katana you are a sitting duck because it cant accelerate, in a dogfight you spend all day basically immobile and pivoting, unless you adapt jousting tactics which is really crap imo. The falx can actually pivot and has the power to turn into the turn rather than just flying backwards.

[Oddible]

Originally posted by Axeface:

Boarding, weapon placement, agility, acceleration and deceleration (the falx stops in 1km from full speed travel mode), docked fighter, man the falx is so much better than the katana. The katana is a slippy slidy fat brick, the falx is a a sword ;p

When you turn the katana you are a sitting duck because it cant accelerate, in a dogfight you spend all day basically immobile and pivoting, unless you adapt jousting tactics which is really crap imo. The falx can actually pivot and has the power to turn into the turn rather than just flying backwards.

Love jousting tactics in my Dragon with Taus!

[XIII]

Originally posted by Axeface:

Boarding, weapon placement, agility, acceleration and deceleration (the falx stops in 1km from full speed travel mode), docked fighter, man the falx is so much better than the katana. The katana is a slippy slidy fat brick, the falx is a a sword ;p

When you turn the katana you are a sitting duck because it cant accelerate, in a dogfight you spend all day basically immobile and pivoting, unless you adapt jousting tactics which is really crap imo. The falx can actually pivot and has the power to turn into the turn rather than just flying backwards.

I got no clue what you guys are doing with your Katanas xD

Mine is just fine at turning with combat thrusters, acceleration is just fine too. It takes 3 seconds to go to 300m/s, which is about the Falx top speed. The slow deceleration is true, but hardly a downside when the ship itself is two times as fast.

It helps to have some throttle control in combat, and predict the distance for travel breaking, but the speed is very useful otherwise, particuarly if you fly around with it as your player craft.

[RandomDude]

Originally posted by Oddible:

Got it, perfect for crew and boarding ops.

So just wanna call something out. Everyone saying "it is an excellent ship if fully upgraded" is absurd. If you fully upgrade the Katana it is still even MORE excellent at everything than crew size. You literally don't improve the Falx in any way over the Katana by upgrading it. When people talk about how a ship is good when you upgrade it - remember to compare apples to apples - is it good vs other fully upgraded ships? No. It is the same.

I guess they mean when comparing it to AI ships though. If you find the Falx too slow or too this/that when trying to do a certain thing, but upgrading it takes it away, then the problems go away. It's also true that upgrading a ship that has better stats will still have that edge over the Falx but the two facts aren't mutually exclusive.

[JoayRabe12]

I had a promethus I stole from Dukes Buccaneers but compared to the Katana, it was trash, when I swapped them I felt like I'd been given wings

[JoayRabe12]

For one the Promethus is so slow to brake that I slam into gates and stuff, then comes the terran pulse lasers, not only are there four instead of three but they are ten times stronger. I tried to get a precious ring from a plutus and blew him away in two shots, it was really funny. oh and don't forget the extra shield.

[XIII]

Originally posted by JoayRabe12:

For one the Promethus is so slow to brake that I slam into gates and stuff, then comes the terran pulse lasers, not only are there four instead of three but they are ten times stronger. I tried to get a precious ring from a plutus and blew him away in two shots, it was really funny. oh and don't forget the extra shield.

Tbf the Prometheus also isnt really a warship as much as a heavily beefed up transport.

[McMuffin]

What the hell is up with the necros today xD
You know this topic is older than a year?

[Pandorian]

Originally posted by McMuffin:

What the hell is up with the necros today xD
You know this topic is older than a year?

Same person who necro'd the last one.

[eMYNOCK]

what is going on today? thats the 2nd one year plus necro today.

please refrain from wakening the dead.. make your own topics instead...

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