Allies are fighting among themselves

[Eraziel]

I noticed something strange in my current game. For a while, the Argon Federation and the Antigone Republic fought against the Holy Order. But now they're fighting each other, despite being allies (check the save file they're still 0.67 with each other so they should be best friends) . Has anyone ever noticed something like this?

I have some mods working but the only one which could impact this is the faction enhancer.

[Set-115689]

Did you do any of the story plots yet?

There's some skirmishes between factions mostly teladi overtaking sectors. Not sure if it happened outside of the betas.

[Eraziel]

Only the HQ plot (Boron has just arrived at the HQ) and the one with the pioneers (Scan HQ).

Currently, the Federal behemoths are unleashed on second contact - flash point. They destroy all the ships and stations of the Antigone Republic.

[«Æ» BUGA [My.F#]]

i have the same with Teladi Faction .......

[Eraziel]

with allies like this you don't need an enemy.

[Daddy Shark]

Sometimes it just comes down to a misunderstanding.

I used to trigger something like this all the time in Rebirth. Let's say there's a Paranid station and a Teladi trader coming in to trade. You come in and park next to the Trader's cap ship and shoot at the Paranid station until it returns fire. Then you dodge the shots at the last second so the shots hit the Teladi ship. Once it takes enough damage, it will fire back on the station. Then the station kills the trader. Then any Teladi in the area come attack. So the Paranid station kills them, too. Pretty soon you have a full-on war.

[[Vilu]]

Not allies, but I once saw the argon attacking the Terrans, without me touching the related plot line. It was just once though. But just like in your case, it's Argons doing it. Must be something buggy in their coding.

[Eraziel]

Originally posted by Star Trucker:

Sometimes it just comes down to a misunderstanding.

I used to trigger something like this all the time in Rebirth. Let's say there's a Paranid station and a Teladi trader coming in to trade. You come in and park next to the Trader's cap ship and shoot at the Paranid station until it returns fire. Then you dodge the shots at the last second so the shots hit the Teladi ship. Once it takes enough damage, it will fire back on the station. Then the station kills the trader. Then any Teladi in the area come attack. So the Paranid station kills them, too. Pretty soon you have a full-on war.

It's not the same thing. What you are saying is that you can cause a faction ship to be considered hostile by a station or other ship of an allied faction by accidentally shooting it at an ally. My situation is really different: the Antigone Republic and the Argonne Federation are fighting everywhere. they are literally at war, except that they are allies ...

I wouldn't mind if these two factions went from allies to enemies. But there, still being allies (according to the save information, they are at 67 reputation points for each other), it breaks the fun. Civilian ships always travel in space which they consider to be friendly and are shot down by "allied" ships.

[Majestic Blue Falcon]

Please tell me your secret. I've been dying to get the factions to fight without mods or shelling out billions of credits. The factions that are supposed to be at war with each other are all building stations in each other's sectors and trading freely.

[Inkarnus]

haha MIN is best trys to kill Teladi Pillager attacks. Teladi are outraged Attack MIN und wipes a Condor task force out. Gotta love that the Tradingstations finally got there weapons.

[JMW58]

Originally posted by Majestic Blue Falcon:

Please tell me your secret. I've been dying to get the factions to fight without mods or shelling out billions of credits. The factions that are supposed to be at war with each other are all building stations in each other's sectors and trading freely.

You can trigger war Between TER vs ARG/ANT. Only 0.1 % have triggered it on Steam. It causes an all out war between the faction. I go a lot of MODs following Terrain fleets and gathering what mess they leave behind.

[Flavalicious]

Originally posted by Ink:

haha MIN is best trys to kill Teladi Pillager attacks. Teladi are outraged Attack MIN und wipes a Condor task force out. Gotta love that the Tradingstations finally got there weapons.

Protip, those aren't Teladi ships ;)

[JMW58]

Any ship that has Pillage or Raider in it is not the faction they say they are. Go scan it to found out. You can Cap them for very lucrative income early game.

[Fenris]

I think the check for who is an ally is bugged. Lately I've flown to several stations and seen laser towers just blasting away any and every drone that comes out of the station. When I check the laser towers they are allied to the station owners faction, but still shooting the drones. In fact I've had towers shoot at me, even though the rep screen says their ships will not open fire on me.

[Eraziel]

Originally posted by Majestic Blue Falcon:

Please tell me your secret. I've been dying to get the factions to fight without mods or shelling out billions of credits. The factions that are supposed to be at war with each other are all building stations in each other's sectors and trading freely.

I would also like to know. But before this mess, the Holy Order was pushing hard in "flashpoint" so I guess normal warfare works just fine, but i have a mod for that.

[Daddy Shark]

The two main ones are the Terran Covert Ops questline and the Paranid Civil War questline. Also, if you reunite the Split they eventually start taking new sectors as well.