X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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mores314 2021 年 3 月 31 日 下午 10:00
What is good about Terran ships?
For Skrit it's the fast drives, for Argon it's turrets, for Paranid it's small & fast miners & transport, and "oh wow" for the Odysseus. For Teladi it's the strong shields.

Apart from Asgard for which there is nothing to compare, what is good about Terran ships?

I can't seem to work out; why a Syn rather than Odyseus or Rattlesnake or even Phoenix?

Why an Okinawa rather than Helios, or Sonra? Incarcetura still has the largest cargo space by far.

In terms of cargo space and speed, Veles sentinel (529t) seems close to Okinawa (277t) but has a far stronger hull and holds slightly more cargo.
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Jumphunter 2021 年 10 月 20 日 下午 2:21 
引用自 mores314
引用自 Vilu
For some reason, yeah :D

For engine comparison:
S mk3's: https://i.imgur.com/YaU0HKA.png
M mk3's: https://imgur.com/0mnRa2J.png
L mk1's: https://imgur.com/bP8OgdZ.png
XL mk1's: https://imgur.com/3GdD0ZF.png

As you can see, Terran speciality in engines is boost/travel and namely their acceleration and efficiency. Terran S/M combat engines can boost almost double the time over other engines, before shields are depleted from full. L and XL engines accelerate travel mode to full speed in ~1/5th of the time other factions take.

Tables not done by me, all credit to Alkeena in egosoft forums, assuming he's the one who made them ;)

edit: the "attack" stat in boost and travel is the time it takes to accelerate to full speed. "release" is for how fast it comes to full stop.

Thanks for that, excellent information.


Syns only have one L engine, Rattlesnakes have 3
redeyedraven 2021 年 10 月 21 日 上午 4:44 
Terran ships with terran equipment present a good balance between offense and defense but except for the Katana and a few others, most of their ships are pretty slow.

Their shields are really good.

Syn and Asgard have no direct equivalents within other factions (though the Syn comes closer to a K than other destroyers do).

They require a vastly different supply-chain for construction.


That's kinda it. In the end they're just another faction, but they do benefit from some improvements over the base-game's ones.

They look more impressive than they truly are.
Walker Evans 2021 年 10 月 21 日 上午 5:41 
引用自 Jumphunter
Syns only have one L engine, Rattlesnakes have 3
Pretty much this. The Rattlesnake has double the mass, but three times the thrust assuming they're equipped with the same engines.
redeyedraven 2021 年 10 月 21 日 上午 5:51 
Meh. If you have to compare the rattlesnake to something terran, it's the Osaka.

Syn (while still a destroyer) is a slight step up from those.
Cowardly Camper 2021 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:23 
Terran shields are absolutely the best. Teladi shields are strong but have slow recharge and long delays. Paranid shields are weak but have fast recharge and short delays. Terran have shields stronger than Teladi with faster recharge and shorter delay than Paranid.

The Kalis is the heaviest shielded fighter with 4 shields.

Terran weapons are also super strong. Even their stock beam turret is stronger than a universal beam. Same with their capital ship guns. Syn will out damage any universal ship in the game, with the exception of a suicidal Raptor. The Asgard is the only XL battleship and its damage makes even the Syn look weak. Plus, it has more shielding than even a xenon I.
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Cowardly Camper 2021 年 10 月 22 日 下午 5:35 
On an unrelated note, the Sonra is a weirdly unique ship in that it can hold an enormous amount of marines for its speed. Might be the best boarding ships early on if you don't have a lot of high level marines. After all, a 3 star costs 2M and that's enough to buy 400 meat shields.
Daddy Shark 2021 年 10 月 22 日 下午 8:51 
I'll also add that a fleet of light fighters such as Takobas outfitted with Meson Streams is absolutely terrifying. They can one-shot a P.
Cowardly Camper 2021 年 10 月 22 日 下午 9:17 
I'm very tempted to load up my raptors with meson stream corvettes and see how they do.
最后由 Cowardly Camper 编辑于; 2021 年 10 月 22 日 下午 10:48
blackphoenixx 2021 年 10 月 23 日 上午 4:52 
One advantage that's pretty universal to terran capital ships is that they have very high turning speeds, usually among the best in their class.

Since the more sluggish L ships can easily take half a minute or more for a 180° turn that translates into quite a bit of time saved on trade runs and it's obviously very valuable in destroyer combat too.
Humble 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 12:11 
引用自 Jumphunter
引用自 mores314

Thanks for that, excellent information.


Syns only have one L engine, Rattlesnakes have 3
Terran Falx had like 6 engine but too slow for that engine, only had 2 turret, shield only 2 spot (Osprey, and other had 3 spot of shield) I think Falx is one of few ship need buffs, maybe little faster (not fast as Katana), more turret and 3 spot shield (so it's offer better than Katana).

Only thing terran some stuff better than other commonwealth is easier to set up space station, a most looking beautiful station and captial ship that are most cool looking. They forced on more specialist in Captial ship more than S/M do, so they had very large shield mk3 that no other faction had (L and XL limited to mk2 shield while Terran had mk3 large or xl shield, I recalled) and they had battleship with specialist weapon almost like death star from star war, Syn is just downgrade from Asgard because they are similar layout but main weapon Asgard had cool death star beam. (thought you can't buy it, you had to paid blueprint if you playing legal way, and set up faction, it's cost me more than billion credit and real couple day to week to start product Asgard while you easy buy destoryer in matter of day to couple day while Asgard is at least couple day at least, not less or early.

I kind of not like look of terran s and some m ship, but I do like some M and up captial ship and station as they all look cool other than same old model builder XL ship (I wish they are not same all commonwealth but oh well)

Terran had easy set up factory and product, best shield (way very costly for little gain, however) and captial ship specialist that should able to deal with any threats.

But speed is downfall, I guess, maybe they stay in sol system too long and alone, less speed but stronger hull, weapon and shield like castle or fortress factions, I guess. if lore make sence, nevermind that they create and build jumpdrive and jumpgate more than any faction other than old alien jumpgate.
最后由 Humble 编辑于; 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 12:12
blackphoenixx 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 12:55 
引用自 Humble
引用自 Jumphunter


Syns only have one L engine, Rattlesnakes have 3
Terran Falx had like 6 engine but too slow for that engine, only had 2 turret, shield only 2 spot (Osprey, and other had 3 spot of shield) I think Falx is one of few ship need buffs, maybe little faster (not fast as Katana), more turret and 3 spot shield (so it's offer better than Katana).
The Falx has beastly acceleration, good turning speed and 4 main weapon slots (which is unique among its class). It's already the frigate with the most firepower with no significant weaknesses and doesn't really need buffs.

Especially compared to the Osprey, which is by far the worst frigate in the game. If any ship needs a buff it's that one.
Having 3 shield slots is about the only advantage the vanilla frigates have over the Falx and the Osprey is just about worst in class in all other aspects except for drone capacity and hull.
Jambie Lionheart 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 1:50 
I haven't explored every ship yet or even race BUT I've been using Terran and taladi ships almost exclusively because they have higher than average manouverability (2nd only to split as far as I can tell) and they have good amount of cargo space, comparatively. And interestingly enough, the Teladi have poor cargo space in fighters, but their travel engines are the best as far as I've seen.

Spit combat ships are kinda lack luster for the most part. They hit hard but they die quickly too. I almost beat a rattlesnake with an M4 equivalent. It think it's because hardpoints actuallymake the cap' ships way more vulnerable to player specific attack.
Cowardly Camper 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 5:04 
I tend to think corvettes should replace your fighter as soon as you get one. They are just plain better. Still haven't found a better ship than the nemesis vanguard, so I have those things scattered everywhere to teleport to if I need to fight anywhere on the map.

Falx is pretty good if you want that docking bay, but its size is starting to get up there. The only good thing about the katana is the ability to mount meson streams, but those are pretty useless for player ships.

The jian, on the other hand, is a bit of an odd one. When loaded with the right turrets, that thing will chew up fighters with ease and makes a pretty good ship for people that aren't good at combat.
Wraith 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 5:08 
引用自 Cowardly Camper
I tend to think corvettes should replace your fighter as soon as you get one. They are just plain better. Still haven't found a better ship than the nemesis vanguard, so I have those things scattered everywhere to teleport to if I need to fight anywhere on the map.

Falx is pretty good if you want that docking bay, but its size is starting to get up there. The only good thing about the katana is the ability to mount meson streams, but those are pretty useless for player ships.

The jian, on the other hand, is a bit of an odd one. When loaded with the right turrets, that thing will chew up fighters with ease and makes a pretty good ship for people that aren't good at combat.
Every ship have a role Corvette in no way replaces fighters as they lack maneuverability
Cowardly Camper 2021 年 10 月 23 日 下午 5:11 
Not enough to hurt. There's a nothing a fighter can do that a nemesis vanguard can't do better, except scout. They kill fighters better, they eat capitals, they can snipe stations out of turret range, they are just plain death machines.
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