mining mission really suck

[kelmenwong]

no useful ui/tool to seek specific resource with certain density.
long range scan is a crude tool, just telling u somethere is there. it doesn't tell what are there, what's the density.

just sink time to click-fest crewman to spam resource probes.

[Ketraar]

They are prospeting missions no? As in FIND resources, if teh map would already tell you where they are would there be a need for prospecting?

Usualy the way I do these is by activating scan mode, then look for the right type of astoroids (colourcoded) and depending on what the mission wants I look for a spot where there are th epossibly right amount.

Granted its a finiky, but these mission usualy pay well that they are worth doing, especilly early game.

MFG

Ketraar

[Asmosis]

It's better than what it used to be. You still need to search, but IIRC the requirements were lowered a lot on these mission types meaning there's a lot more places you can put probes.

Previously i had gone as far as covering a system in hundreds of probes (getting AI pilot and just right clicking on map) Now I'm getting it first time every time after using Shift-2 scanner to find at least some asteroids of the correct type.

[blackphoenixx]

Don't even bother doing it yourself, it's a waste of time.
Just order a few NPC scouts to carpet bomb a sector with probes, then recollect the duds and leave the good ones.

Thankfully resource density is fixed and not random between games so you only have to do it once per sector. Screenshot it for reference if you start a new game.

[BGratz]

If you dont like it make a other mission.
Its only really painfull if its part of a multiquest and so the Doorkeeper for a Quest you really want

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by kelmenwong:

just sink time to click-fest crewman to spam resource probes.

As pointed out above you can get a scout to carpet probe a sector with asteroids/gas clouds in two minutes with minimum effort. And here's the thing, you want to do that anyway so that you can find the best resource yields for your own factories.

Once you've done it you will get mining mission after mining mission and they become dead easy, no effort at all since you won't have to look for the required resource yields, you will already have found them. Since they often give high level seminars as a reward they are the gift that just keeps on giving.

[kelmenwong]

"carpet bomb with probes", vanilla action? deploy 1 by 1?
well, that's what i'm doing.
but now i'm trying with mods. if good, i update later.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by kelmenwong:

"carpet bomb with probes", vanilla action? deploy 1 by 1?

No, you chain probe drop orders on the map one after another and your ship will then do all of them in turn. This is a base game feature. It means you can order any number of probe drops very quickly, Also satellite drops etc.

[BGratz]

Originally posted by Gregorovitch:

Originally posted by kelmenwong:

"carpet bomb with probes", vanilla action? deploy 1 by 1?

No, you chain probe drop orders on the map one after another and your ship will then do all of them in turn. This is a base game feature. It means you can order any number of probe drops very quickly, Also satellite drops etc.

Well nearly any, only so many as the commanded ship has satellites

[kelmenwong]

to ease mass-deploy
Waypoint fields for deployments
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/585

i use 1 m frigate and 1 s, total 150 deployable spaces, using about 146 res probes, the rest nav probes.

using this to auto collect the res probes, don't like all pimples in the sector map.
CollectPlaceables
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/340
b4 start to collect/clear, drop the nav probe at the res probe where i want to mark permanently. once all collect, redeploy the res probe back at the nav probes.

move on

[Asmosis]

For people suggesting carpet bombing, are you talking current beta or non-beta?

Because so far in beta every probe i've dropped (to be fair, only about 7 missions) has hit the requirements due to the reduced req's on those missions.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by kelmenwong:

to ease mass-deploy
Waypoint fields for deployments
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/585

i use 1 m frigate and 1 s, total 150 deployable spaces, using about 146 res probes, the rest nav probes.

using this to auto collect the res probes, don't like all pimples in the sector map.
CollectPlaceables
https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/340
b4 start to collect/clear, drop the nav probe at the res probe where i want to mark permanently. once all collect, redeploy the res probe back at the nav probes.

move on

Why on earth would you get the carpet bombing mod?
that one of the worst mod ever and your not suppose to be carpet bombing resource probe anyway.

Why do people keep brute forcing resource probe I'll never know.

If you seriously dislike placing resource probe just use the sector satellite mod...

https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/4

and use the resource survey unit...

which cheat for you and place resource probe at the highest yield location for each resource

[blackphoenixx]

Originally posted by Asmosis:

For people suggesting carpet bombing, are you talking current beta or non-beta?

Because so far in beta every probe i've dropped (to be fair, only about 7 missions) has hit the requirements due to the reduced req's on those missions.

Who cares about the missions? That's just a bonus.
The real point is finding the highest yield spots for your own miners.

[GetUrAssToMars]

Originally posted by blackphoenixx:

Originally posted by Asmosis:

For people suggesting carpet bombing, are you talking current beta or non-beta?

Because so far in beta every probe i've dropped (to be fair, only about 7 missions) has hit the requirements due to the reduced req's on those missions.

Who cares about the missions? That's just a bonus.
The real point is finding the highest yield spots for your own miners.

Last I checked miners don't bother anyways.

[Zloth]

Miners for stations will sometimes go pretty far out to use a resource probe. Leaving one is essentially giving permission for ships to mine at that point. (There's probably a way to keep them from doing that in the global behaviors.)

Also, not all the best points are on the plane of the map. There's a great spot for silicon that's a ways above the plane near the center of Antigone Memorial, for instance.

The rocks/gas you see don't really match what the probe will say. Even the maps colors can be wrong. Go to Nop's Fortune, follow the highways to the end, and you'll see plenty of rocks and gas. The map shows purple. Probes show empty.

[BGratz]

Dont forget, if you have a nice probe placed, 30 minutes after your army of Miners come in the area arround that probe is empty