Cannot cancel build command

[NiftyPower]

I'm having the problem of builders who suddenly stop building during mission stations, but won't stop building on my actual personal stations even when commanded to. The option to cancel the build is grayed out in the "Plan Build" screen, the map menu commands to stop are just ignored, the option to fire the captain is grayed out in dialogue, and my attempts to take the controls are ignored.

[eMYNOCK]

to force a builder to really stop / cancel a building order you literally have to cancel the stage it works on inside the building screen.


exaple:

you have a builder that is stuck at building a docking area, be it because the construction storage lacks materials, funding, etc... or you just want to reconfigure the Build Plan... what it is does not matters.

1.) open the build screen
2.) select the module your builder ship is stuck at / working on
3.) delete it and everything after from the buildplan
4.) save the plan (confirm)


the ship will now recall its drones and leave your construction site.


**be noted that you will have to design a aborted construction project again, Materials for partially build and aborted Modules will be refunded into your Building Storage

[NiftyPower]

It does seem like smashing an engine apart to get it to stop. Also, I don't know how to delete the items directly on the queue on the right, so I have to track down and click on each individual element in a potentially large and complex structure within the actual layout. It doesn't seem practical.

Are you going to fix this bug with a patch at some point?

[eMYNOCK]

The behavior you described is working as intended, i am sorry that it appears to you as a Bug.

As said, to cancel a Build (a whole Plot and/or Station) you need to remove every already planned Module.

The Save Build and Cancel Buttons are only active to Save or, like mentioned, Cancel the changes in a Buildplan you are currently editing.

[NiftyPower]

It does seem like smashing an engine apart to get it to stop.

[eMYNOCK]

If you are okay i will drag this here back to the General Discussions, i am sure there are many Station Builders around that will happily help you to get the right Feeling and understanding about the Build Screen (how to layout Stations, how to remove Parts etc.)

[NiftyPower]

So, just to clarify what you said, the following is intentional game design:

1. When I hire a builder to build up a station, the builder sometimes stops partway through, and sometimes never even goes to the station in the first place, even if they are in the same system, and I still get charged.

2. The builder cannot be interrupted while building by any command of mine for any reason, and the only way to get the builder to stop is to literally track down and click on each individual element in a potentially large and complex structure within the actual layout.

As I mentioned earlier, I can't find an option to delete the items directly on the queue on the right, so I have to track down and click on each individual element in a potentially large and complex structure within the actual layout. It doesn't seem practical.

[rucky]

1. sure is a bug
2. buy your own builder though it's some 13-14M credits I know, otherwise it's not too much either. Always doing that.
-> then you can stop the "bugged" builder by canceling his orders directly -- at least I think so, haven't tried that....

[eMYNOCK]

1. When I hire a builder to build up a station, the builder sometimes stops partway through, and sometimes never even goes to the station in the first place, even if they are in the same system, and I still get charged.

there is only 1 reason why a hired builder will not reach the construction site, it eventually just got intercepted, disabled and/or destroyed by enemies.

when a build stalls how ever there is still only one reason:

1.) the construction site ran out of materials

this can happen when the traders approaching your station are intercepted them self or your site is not willing to buy materials at the price the traders want to sell them.


both cases are intended behavior.

[rucky]

@eMYNOCK what he is referring to (as I think) is that sometimes vessels get stuck in their behavior resulting in doing nothing, standing there as a sitting duck. It's a rare seldom thing I have encounters, and only on my own ships (as I never been interested in other faction ships that is), so canceling all orders and re-adding them do help mostly, even saving/reloading does mostly, but this problem does exist.

[eMYNOCK]

if this issue exists i am not aware of it... luckily i can't know everything.

in this case all i can do is to request as much informations as possible, how to reproduce it as reliable as possible and, should it be save presistant, an affected savegame.

the fastest way to get everything onto the Desk of the related Dev would be the usage of our support mail.

support(a)egosoft(.)com

[NiftyPower]

Originally posted by rucky:

1. sure is a bug
2. buy your own builder though it's some 13-14M credits I know, otherwise it's not too much either. Always doing that.
-> then you can stop the "bugged" builder by canceling his orders directly -- at least I think so, haven't tried that....

Attempting to cancel the orders directly doesn't do anything, and that's the problem.

[rucky]

Originally posted by NiftyPower:

Originally posted by rucky:

1. sure is a bug
2. buy your own builder though it's some 13-14M credits I know, otherwise it's not too much either. Always doing that.
-> then you can stop the "bugged" builder by canceling his orders directly -- at least I think so, haven't tried that....

Attempting to cancel the orders directly doesn't do anything, and that's the problem.

on the OWNED constructor? I thought you have "hired" one, that one you can't cancel his orders obviously as he doesn't belong to you(r fleet)...

[blizard]

then why add cancel build order button

[NiftyPower]

Originally posted by rucky:

Originally posted by NiftyPower:

Attempting to cancel the orders directly doesn't do anything, and that's the problem.

on the OWNED constructor? I thought you have "hired" one, that one you can't cancel his orders obviously as he doesn't belong to you(r fleet)...

I cannot cancel build orders on the builders I own, and that is the main issue.

[rucky]

I see.
No idea, sorry.

edit:
@eMYNOCK:

I do understand why abborting the build process in the build menu is not possible, as you would have to roll back anything, also you would have to store any partially build modules etc...
though f.e. what the game behavior when the constructor get killed WHILE constructing?
=> The construction just gets on hold.
Why wouldn't that be a problem, when you could stop/cancel the constructor - that is only THAT constructor, not the BUILD PLAN ITSELF?