Question about SETA

[Valus Fahr]

So.. I have it.. but I worry it might mess with trades, and maybe even cause Xenon to invade/destroy stuff faster (it is made from their parts after all).
I mean I'd be glad to build stations faster but not if it means ruining the galaxy ya know.

So.. any explanation of what the risks are to using SETA would be very appreciated. Thanks.

[eMYNOCK]

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

[Valus Fahr]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

Well that is appreciated to get a response from a Dev. You guys know how SETA works better than anyone. So.. to be clear.. there is no actual negative side effect to using it. No attracting Xenon or any weirdness that wouldn't normally happen in regular speed? It did say something about no known side effects in the description.. but it also led me to believe there might be.

[Belteguesian]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

There IS another use of SETA mind you, when heading to battle, so you don't drain your shields boosting and don't want to grow roots into your chair at the same time!!!

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by Belteguesian:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

There IS another use of SETA mind you, when heading to battle, so you don't drain your shields boosting and don't want to grow roots into your chair at the same time!!!

that is sadly not fully correct as you really only speed up the time... not the speed of the ship.

everything will be speed up.

[Alith-Ahnar]

Originally posted by Belteguesian:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

There IS another use of SETA mind you, when heading to battle, so you don't drain your shields boosting and don't want to grow roots into your chair at the same time!!!

Depending on the size of your ship the tactical sound option would be to pulse boost or travel drive instead.

SETA is and remains a poor hack that does compress time this way you can't get a tactical advantage you just conserve real life time.

If you not familiar with boost or travel drive pulsing give it a try i is worth it.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by ManDaxi:

It did say something about no known side effects in the description.. but it also led me to believe there might be.

apologies.. this detail slipped through my vision.

but to clear that question about "side effects".
those are meant to be ingame (lore) health related and the possible effects the micro singularity of the SETA could have on organic lifeforms... nothing to do with xenon.

[Valus Fahr]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by ManDaxi:

It did say something about no known side effects in the description.. but it also led me to believe there might be.

apologies.. this detail slipped through my vision.

but to clear that question about "side effects".
those are meant to be ingame (lore) health related and the possible effects the micro singularity of the SETA could have on organic lifeforms... nothing to do with xenon.

Gotcha. Thank you. I had to be sure right. No attracting enemies just cause I want to build stations faster lol

[Valus Fahr]

Originally posted by Belteguesian:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

with SETA you simply speed up the time for your Player character... means you speed up the Simulation.

there is no real benefit from using seta except it feels like everything runs faster, truth is you waste way more time literally doing nothing while in SETA... time you could spend to do missions, trade or just fly around while your station gets build.

this may be a harsh example... but it is how i personally feel about SETA.

There IS another use of SETA mind you, when heading to battle, so you don't drain your shields boosting and don't want to grow roots into your chair at the same time!!!

That is cheesy.. I want to use SETA to accelerate station building in real-time so it doesnt take 30 days to build the means to support a wharf.

[Fivepints]

Hi all, Just thought id add a little of my findings concerning SETA. It was the first thing i acquired in fact, and on the one hand that was a bonus really, as once you get to build your first station you are glad you have it to hand.

Downside for me is i've continued to play this run through mostly in SETA mode.. now this has made the game in normal mode almost unplayable. It makes you realise just how slow the whole game is! and it raises a lot of questions, the main one for me is why does everything have to take so long? unless its in red then its gonna be slow i'm finding...

i'm sticking with it for now though, as it was my idea to do a non fighting run through and see how i fared... 500+hrs in and i'm doing ok...

Upside to SETA? is there one? yes indeed get your fighters & anything that isn't trading to dock, make a save then turn on SETA and go to bed!, your so much richer when you wake!! or dead ....

auto save can help there too but you'll have lost nothing anyway, maybe its my game play experiment but i've not had any mishaps so far..

Hope this helps clear a few things up

[richard.e.jenkins]

Haha, Fivepints. Your story reminds me of the movie, "Click".

In the older X games, SETA was pretty much used for what is now 'Fast Travel'. You could use it to Speed through the simulation, but there's plenty to do so, why?

On the other hand, I have to admit I've left the game running overnight or through the day while I'm at work to let credits build up or complete some drastically time-consuming thing.

[Squee]

I found SETA to be really nice for early game. When you have nothing to manage, you didn't have jump drives and were just waiting to get to your destination while on auto-pilot. Now your ship has boosters, but imagine the time saved when combined with SETA.

And it's also nice for leaving the game running all night to make some cash.

[Valus Fahr]

As stated before.. i have no interest in using SETA to cheese at driving. Like come on.. im not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lazy. All i was concerned with is if it would break the game, attracting Xenon due to it being Xenon tech. Like really... stop with this. I really dont care how you people use it to cheese up speed when its not needed.
I use it for building stations ONLY!!!!
ONLY WANTED TO BE SURE IT WOULDNT BREAK THE SIM, OR CURB IT UNNATURALLY IN XENON FAVOR.

[BDO]

In X3, it made the autopilot really, REALLY bad. You did not want to turn it on while a swarm of your fighters were trying to navigate around some asteroids, lol. Haven't used it in X4 yet, don't know if the AI is better at coping with the game speed increase. Probably, what with multi-core support, nav splines, and all that modern jazz. X3 was single-threaded and just didn't handle SETA well (in-sector). At least not SETA x10, hehe.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by BDO:

In X3, it made the autopilot really, REALLY bad. You did not want to turn it on while a swarm of your fighters were trying to navigate around some asteroids, lol. Haven't used it in X4 yet, don't know if the AI is better at coping with the game speed increase. Probably, what with multi-core support, nav splines, and all that modern jazz. X3 was single-threaded and just didn't handle SETA well (in-sector). At least not SETA x10, hehe.

you brought up the perfect example on how SETA works... in this case flight behavior when in SETA.

what you describe... fighters going wonky... etcpp.. is related to the skips the seta causes (the increased sim speed).

skipping script parts means less to calculate.. means faster sim speed but also means.. well, this ship isn't supposed to crash into the Asteroid but it does anyway because the evade part of the movement script was (this time) skipped.