Trade lowering reputation ?

[Cadelanne]

Is it normal that trading with ZYA lowers my reputation with them ?

[HoloByteus]

Check the logs, you should see a note about reputation loss and what specifically for. It can't say I've ever seen trade be the cause.

[Cadelanne]

Originally posted by WarCrime:

Check the logs, you should see a note about reputation loss and what specifically for. It can't say I've ever seen trade be the cause.

That's what I did and saw -1 rep for trading.

[eMYNOCK]

You can't loose Reputation by Trading unless one of your Ships was Scanned in ZYA Space with contraband on board.

[Ygolnac]

Sorry to necro this thread, but I had very same issue:
- My trader has no guns
- My trader is set to comply with police
- My trader is set to comply with pirates
- My trader doesn't trades with any illegal good
- My trader is set to autotrade in the same sector, so it's not trading between warring factions.

The log says: Reputation lost -4, reason: trade completed.

I reloaded and watched what was happening: my trader sold silicon wafers bought from an HOP station to another HOP station. That's the only thing that happened. No fights, no police scans, nothig at all, just this trade made me lose 4 rep levels.

That's my third playthrough and it did never happen before, altough it seems that something triggers this bug from a couple of years.

[arrak]

Is your trader a L ship with cargo drones?

The next i set as Universal setting, in "Individual Setting" for ship:
"Ignore dropped crates"

Did the station have droped crates in vicinity?

if L ship, cargo drones, also has a setting you must change

A M or S ship just needs to fly through a crate, to "absorb" it.
Settings important...especially if "dropped crate is in your "docking path" :D

Better to be safe, than sorry ;)

[Mackcrws]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

You can't loose Reputation by Trading unless one of your Ships was Scanned in ZYA Space with contraband on board.

You don't know anything about this game, don't you?

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by IPAI twitch.tv/mackcrws:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

You can't loose Reputation by Trading unless one of your Ships was Scanned in ZYA Space with contraband on board.

You don't know anything about this game, don't you?

You are unable to read the Date of the reply you quoted, don't you?

At the Time i replied, my reply was the most likely cause.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by Ygolnac:

Sorry to necro this thread, but I had very same issue:
- My trader has no guns
- My trader is set to comply with police
- My trader is set to comply with pirates
- My trader doesn't trades with any illegal good
- My trader is set to autotrade in the same sector, so it's not trading between warring factions.

The log says: Reputation lost -4, reason: trade completed.

I reloaded and watched what was happening: my trader sold silicon wafers bought from an HOP station to another HOP station. That's the only thing that happened. No fights, no police scans, nothig at all, just this trade made me lose 4 rep levels.

That's my third playthrough and it did never happen before, altough it seems that something triggers this bug from a couple of years.

If your Save is Vanilla i ask you to upload it to Google Drive or Similar and mail the Link to our Support.

[Ygolnac]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by Ygolnac:

Sorry to necro this thread, but I had very same issue:
- My trader has no guns
- My trader is set to comply with police
- My trader is set to comply with pirates
- My trader doesn't trades with any illegal good
- My trader is set to autotrade in the same sector, so it's not trading between warring factions.

The log says: Reputation lost -4, reason: trade completed.

I reloaded and watched what was happening: my trader sold silicon wafers bought from an HOP station to another HOP station. That's the only thing that happened. No fights, no police scans, nothig at all, just this trade made me lose 4 rep levels.

That's my third playthrough and it did never happen before, altough it seems that something triggers this bug from a couple of years.

If your Save is Vanilla i ask you to upload it to Google Drive or Similar and mail the Link to our Support.

Thank you, I will do.
The ship is a Small trader without drones. The issue incurred also in performing a manual trade: I set a manual buy order for energy cells in 18Billion and upon purchase lost 4rep with TEL. Log says: reputation lost -4, reason: trade completed

[Mackcrws]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by IPAI twitch.tv/mackcrws:

You don't know anything about this game, don't you?

You are unable to read the Date of the reply you quoted, don't you?

At the Time i replied, my reply was the most likely cause.

This bug is since 2019 and still exists like other one. Unfortenatly I can't code but thank god a lot of people of the comunity can.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by Ygolnac:

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

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Can you verify that the Ships Captain has absolutely nothing in their personal Inventory that could possibly be seen as Contraband?

What you describe literally reeks as if your Captain has something fishy in their Pockets and the Station they trade with simply don't likes that kind of [what ever] even near their Station.

[arrak]

As there are Ship Inventory, there is also Personal inventory.

There are 2 types of Police. National police of the State. (Sector notification)
and Station Security (Police). (They notify station)

Station Security scanned and found something on you, get the heck away from station,
do not dock and trade, just get away, and drop illegals from PERSONAL inventory, before sector police catches up to scan you.

There is a menue option, that shows you which ship captain, has something on
him.

Set your Universal setting, in "Individual Setting" for ship:
"Ignore dropped crates
Thats the answer to avoid this scenario :)
....and...my pleasure :)

[SirProsik]

This game has some strange bugs with faction for sure.
Someday hopefully these can get defeated.

I have had false alarms from ARG and MIN (rare) scanning S defender ships of Miners and Traders ping my log saying found contraband when the said ships have neither inventory or cargo.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by SirProsik:

This game has some strange bugs with faction for sure.
Someday hopefully these can get defeated.

I have had false alarms from ARG and MIN (rare) scanning S defender ships of Miners and Traders ping my log saying found contraband when the said ships have neither inventory or cargo.

Are you sure the Log said found Contraband and was not just saying "Was stopped by Police for Inspection" ?

Anyway, ARG is the Police Force in ANT Space thus they dictate whats legal and what is not.
Same for MIN in TEL Space.

[Ygolnac]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by Ygolnac:

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Can you verify that the Ships Captain has absolutely nothing in their personal Inventory that could possibly be seen as Contraband?

What you describe literally reeks as if your Captain has something fishy in their Pockets and the Station they trade with simply don't likes that kind of [what ever] even near their Station.

The very same ship with the very same crew have been autotrading all weekend without issues in ANT and later ZYA territory. Also before the bug triggered in HOP territory it has been autotrading from rep 0 to +9 with them.

In my opinion it seems there's something wrong in the code between the time you place a buy order and the time you effectively make the purchase. Since I reloaded few times and watched what was happening close, the rep loss occours in the very instant the purchase is made, when the ship is already docked in the station. It doesn't click every trade but under some condition i can't reproduce if not reloading before the bug happens and reexecuting the same trade, then the bug repeats itself.