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Mikhaleech Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:07am
Rattlesnake main caliber problem
I,ve noticed that all my rattlesnakes dont use their main guns in battle under AI command. Only turrets are firing. Could somebody confirm?
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Peacenelke Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:21am 
Most AI Capital Ships do that, at least at the fights i witnessed. Dont know if this behaviour will be gone with higher Star Captains.
Malkuth Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:35am 
Ya they only use turrets. Because the only real thing the captain does is fly the ship around, and attempt to point in right direction.

If destroyers used there main guns enemy stations would be toast. Capital AI has always been terrible.
Alith-Ahnar Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Mikhaleech:
I,ve noticed that all my rattlesnakes dont use their main guns in battle under AI command. Only turrets are firing. Could somebody confirm?

That it is standard practice no can not confirm.
That conditions exist for it to happen yes this is possible as with all other Destroyer.
Danke Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:43am 
My own Captains indeed do not use the Rattlesnake's main weapons. But the ZYA ones use them with no issue.
Nilucard Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:46am 
I think is most a problem with the aiming,sometimes i see my rattlesnakes shooting...sometimes
Inforiel Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:47am 
If attacking stations, they tend to stay at max range and use main batteries for most classes - Can not confirm if there is any issue with rattlesnake in particular seeing as how the only one I own I fly myself thus far. :)
Xenomorph Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by Peacenelke:
Most AI Capital Ships do that, at least at the fights i witnessed. Dont know if this behaviour will be gone with higher Star Captains.

Nah.
They seem to only try to keep some distance, maybe other factors like stay in formation, dunno, that's why we see them doing all the stupid things they do, and unable to keep turrets on target. Because they got shot at or something, and try to evade, which obviously doesn't work.

Couple days ago i assisted destroying 4 Xenon stations (2 complete 2 in construction) in Ianamus Zura, the whole Teladi military fleet in system was gone but a single phoenix. It was sitting in space a bit far off, facing the Xenon station under construction, and only one of the L turrets was firing at the station because angles (...). But not the main guns. I even flew there to see it they were wrecked, and they were not.

They just don't use them reliably, and for the life of me, i can't remember if they did back in 1.0.
Last edited by Xenomorph; Apr 29, 2020 @ 9:58am
Malkuth Apr 29, 2020 @ 10:01am 
Originally posted by Xenomorph:
Originally posted by Peacenelke:
Most AI Capital Ships do that, at least at the fights i witnessed. Dont know if this behaviour will be gone with higher Star Captains.

Nah.
They seem to only try to keep some distance, maybe other factors like stay in formation, dunno, that's why we see them doing all the stupid things they do, and unable to keep turrets on target. Because they got got shot at or something, and try to evade, which obviously doesn't work.

Couple days ago i assisted destroying 4 Xenon stations (2 complete 2 in construction) in Ianamus Zura, the whole Teladi military fleet in system was gone but a single phoenix. It was sitting in space a bit far off, facing the Xenon station under construction, and only one of the L turrets was firing at the station because angles (...). But not the main guns. I even flew there to see it they were wrecked, and they were not.

They just don't use them, and for the file of me, i can't remember if they did back in 1.0.

No I did extensive testing even before 3.0 with destroyers vs stations. 6K off and I manually pointed 7 destroyers at the station.. And while under control of the AI they never fired any main guns.. Ever.. Only I did with the destroyer I was controlling. All they used was turrets.

The problem was back than maybe if you give it a Dirrect attack order it will finally use the main gun if pointed right.. But if you do that, the dumb AI goes within 500 Meters of the stations and gets killed.

Like I said the Capital AI in this game is terrible. The devs should be ashamed they let it go this bad for this long.

Don't get me wrong I love this game.. But by the time I get to Capitol stage of the game, It sets me off that this is still an issue.
Last edited by Malkuth; Apr 29, 2020 @ 10:03am
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