AI is too sensitive with station damage

[Responsible Fatherjk]

I had a mission next to an AI station and a Hive station was right next to it and I had to fight them next to the station which cause the station to attack me. It made my mission impossible to do and I reload multiple saves just cause my turrets would hit the station. At least make it till 99 or 98% that they attack me

[The-Gizmo]

Yeah right now the friendly fire hostility is way way way too sensitive. For me, a single shot from one of my turrets on a friendly that's +30 and was never hit before instantly turns them hostile.

[cwsumner]

Originally posted by The-Gizmo:

Yeah right now the friendly fire hostility is way way way too sensitive. For me, a single shot from one of my turrets on a friendly that's +30 and was never hit before instantly turns them hostile.

That's why there is a button to disable / re-enable turrets.

And if someone "accidentally" shot your car, you would be pissed, too. But it's probably just that one station and they will get over it in a while. Just don't do it again... 8-}

[The-Gizmo]

But then turrets would be completely worthless every time any friendly target is nearby, not really a solution.

[cwsumner]

Originally posted by The-Gizmo:

But then turrets would be completely worthless every time any friendly target is nearby, not really a solution.

Friendly ships don't seem to be a problem, just stations. I try to lead the enemy away, or decoy them into hitting the station themselves.

I also tend to fight in ships that have forward guns, so I can turn off the turrets temporarily, or set them to missile defense.

I am not sure, but I think that educated crew to man the turrets helps, too. It is not visible much, but I think it effects AI action.

[Responsible Fatherjk]

Ships are fine. They let you deplete a lot of thier shields before losing thier ♥♥♥♥ 😂. Stations are worse than my missus on her period

[Defektiv]

It's more than just stations. I'm sitting here gate camping the entrance to Xenon space and PAR brings in a fleet RIGHT on top of my position. Xenon comes in, everyone starts firing, and next thing I know I'm getting rep hits left and right. Now there's one less PAR fleet.

The entire PAR fleet gone and they took out.. 2 fighters and a defense drone. It's no wonder they haven't been able to hold back the Xenon here. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2076750220

[srmacpherson]

Originally posted by cwsumner:

Originally posted by The-Gizmo:

Yeah right now the friendly fire hostility is way way way too sensitive. For me, a single shot from one of my turrets on a friendly that's +30 and was never hit before instantly turns them hostile.

That's why there is a button to disable / re-enable turrets.

And if someone "accidentally" shot your car, you would be pissed, too. But it's probably just that one station and they will get over it in a while. Just don't do it again... 8-}

In combat, there is collateral damage. We try to keep it at a minimum, but things happen, and allies need to understand this. Also, its not like we've damaged their station, only hit the shields.

Its friggin ridiculous.

[cwsumner]

Originally posted by srmacpherson:

Its friggin ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah, they all say that. And then they shoot up another on my stations.

Get off my lawn, kid... 8-)

[CW3 Silversmith]

i fixed the issue by never using a ship with turrets near a station i didn't want hostile.
edit: alternatively, oos combat never seems to cause the problem, but maybe i am just lucky.

[Philonious Rex]

Originally posted by b33r:

i fixed the issue by never using a ship with turrets near a station i didn't want hostile.
edit: alternatively, oos combat never seems to cause the problem, but maybe i am just lucky.

OOS there seems to be no friendly fire, also accuracy seems to be much better.

I find that destroyers that usually take a while to kill small ships can get them easily OOS, also collision is off so.

Further turning turrets on and off is a thing for M class ships, but I don't think the button is so readily available on Destroyers. In X3 you could comm ships and apologize for friendly fire which was nice.

[wizaerd]

I'm surprised there isn't a mod for the friendly fire... or is there?

[XIII]

Its frankly baffling that Egosoft didnt think about fixing this problem that has existed since ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ X Beyond the Frontier....

[cwsumner]

A function that has been in that long, is probably a "feature" not a bug. ;-)

And, there was discussion about 10 years ago about players getting incautious around friends, if there was no friendly-fire...

They don't do "invisible walls", here, but that doesn't mean they don't do anything about such stuff.

[Runian]

Had something funny happen, as I was on a kill turret mission the near by base took it personally and reported me to sector sec.
Sector sec. replied NO.
I said : I win you pu**y... lol

[XIII]

Originally posted by Runian:

Had something funny happen, as I was on a kill turret mission the near by base took it personally and reported me to sector sec.
Sector sec. replied NO.
I said : I win you pu**y... lol

Yeah I love that one! Have it quite a few times after I identified a pirate.