X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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Navy~ Apr 10, 2020 @ 12:32am
Ship Formations
Why is the flying formations locked behind a skill wall if there are no benefits for using them? As soon as the fighting starts, or having an order to engage, all ships fly chaoticly. Also are there any bonuses for using "eagle 5 stars" vs "V-shape 1 star" ? or is it purely "cosmetics"? Even so, they rarely manage to keep up in formation. I've tried forming different wings inside a fleet, like asigning a dragon to a destroyer and the dragon having another 4-5 subordonates, so it will create clusters of V-shapes, its working but rarely keep up in formation while giving orders to the fleet commander. I'm not talking about me taking control of the fleet commander becouse thats waay too much for the AI to adjust to my movements, i know, but for the AI controlling alone. I feel like there supposed to have some bonuses while in different kind of formations, speed bonus , evasion, attack speed , attack power i dunno, something.
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Bert (Banned) Apr 10, 2020 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by Navy~:
Why is the flying formations locked behind a skill wall if there are no benefits for using them? As soon as the fighting starts, or having an order to engage, all ships fly chaoticly. Also are there any bonuses for using "eagle 5 stars" vs "V-shape 1 star" ? or is it purely "cosmetics"? Even so, they rarely manage to keep up in formation. I've tried forming different wings inside a fleet, like asigning a dragon to a destroyer and the dragon having another 4-5 subordonates, so it will create clusters of V-shapes, its working but rarely keep up in formation while giving orders to the fleet commander. I'm not talking about me taking control of the fleet commander becouse thats waay too much for the AI to adjust to my movements, i know, but for the AI controlling alone. I feel like there supposed to have some bonuses while in different kind of formations, speed bonus , evasion, attack speed , attack power i dunno, something.

yes... its sad..

Even wihtout fighting they never hold formation.

I also tried to setup some sector patrols, 1 Dragon as Leader and 6 Falcons as subordinates. They never hold formation, the Dragon races ahead and leaves the slower ships behind.

For me it looks like the faster ships never match the speed of the whole formation. So formations are only a gimick when your wing is standing still.

Its sad because in X3 it actually worked...
Navy~ Apr 10, 2020 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by berti.r:

yes... its sad..

Even wihtout fighting they never hold formation.

I also tried to setup some sector patrols, 1 Dragon as Leader and 6 Falcons as subordinates. They never hold formation, the Dragon races ahead and leaves the slower ships behind.

For me it looks like the faster ships never match the speed of the whole formation. So formations are only a gimick when your wing is standing still.

Its sad because in X3 it actually worked...

yea try making clusters of the same type of ships, i made myself clusters of 5 mambas, one of them being wing leader and so on.. seems like different type of ships or different types of engines, doesnt work as good. but even so i have instances when some wings are standing still while others are flying in formation , i don;t know.
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Date Posted: Apr 10, 2020 @ 12:32am
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