X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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OZZO Apr 9, 2020 @ 11:02am
Patriarchy or Court of Curbs and why?
At some point in the quest line you will need to make a decision between these two factions.

Which one did you choose and why?
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Wraith Apr 11, 2020 @ 9:28am 
I chose the Patriarchy because of the order that it provided.

I see him as the lesser evil that can bring order to the split and slowly introduce changes while the curbs are pretty much exactly what the problem with the past Split and that they are religious and to into the tradition of old.

Your main character if you chose the patriarchy start is a female btw and is trying prove herself and capture the Argons sectors for the faction.

Both of them are pretty pro-split and xenophobic but the Patriarchy I find is better for the split themselves.
OZZO Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:05am 
Bump.
So, I have chosen to side with the Patriarch. Then there comes a point when some stations become hostile (-30 rep) and belonging to Court of Curbs. Zyarth attacks those stations and Curbs ships. I understand that Zyarth will eventually wipe them all. And Curbs with -30 rep are like super-hostile.

If you sided with Curbs, do you have Zyarth as hostile with -30 rep?

Frontier Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:09am 
Split storyline is for splits only?
OZZO Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by Frontier:
Split storyline is for splits only?
no, I am playing the same save from 2 years back. You can have the split story line without playing as split.
Frontier Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:28am 
Originally posted by OZZO:
Originally posted by Frontier:
Split storyline is for splits only?
no, I am playing the same save from 2 years back. You can have the split story line without playing as split.
How do i get split storyline?
slater2715 Apr 20, 2020 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Frontier:
How do i get split storyline?

Complete the Hatichva Free League mission chain. Not too long after that, Boso Ta will call you back to HQ to start the Split mission chain
Dreamweaver May 9, 2020 @ 11:59pm 
>Fires of Defeat
>Immediately gtfo and get the usual passive income, PHQ
>Grab a Courier ship and run to Zyarth stations, kill criminal mass traffic
>Befriend Zyarth
>???
>Kill Rattlesnake
>Grab a Courier ship and run to Zyarth stations, kill criminal mass traffic
>+20 rep with Zyarth and grab all the blueprints
>Go join Court of Curbs
>Contain Zyarth
>Divide former Zyarth territory in to CUB/ARG/HAT
>Decide on next war
yaroslav.fursov Jul 3, 2020 @ 12:56am 
I have sided with Patriarch against Court of Curbs - because with Patriarch slaves should have more freedoms (at least so the story say).
I am not sure it was a mistake - but definitely the worst fraud in this game! I have spent 80% of my money to build the fleet for the mission. About 10 heavy ships - my transports was supplying split shipyards for 2 hours. After all this Patriarch just destroyed this fleet ... and send couple (!) of ships to help me against Curbs! This was not easy fight but I have already built defense platform in the sector (to claim it for myself).
And guess what? After I have destroyed Court of Curbs ship - 80% of free families stations and ships in Split sectors switched to Court of Curbs faction and became my -30 enemy! They wiped all Patriarch forces and station in those sectors. Also several my trade ships not managed to escape. Why Court of Curbs needed my help in first place if they were soooo powerfull?
So half of Split sectors now my enemy, I have lost ships ... But wait - Patriarch promised me to repay for the fleet I have build at my own expense. Guess what? Instead of prize the next mission is to provide Patriarch with 400 000 000 money!
This plot is complete setup! If someone was as stupid as me - please help me to understand what next:
- If I sided with Court of Curbs - what will be different?
- If I continue mission and give Patriarch 400 millions - will it win and pacify the Curbs sectors?
- Is any way to make peace with Curbs and if so - will be there new faction representative?
Last edited by yaroslav.fursov; Jul 3, 2020 @ 10:27am
HoloByteus Jul 3, 2020 @ 1:59am 
Went with Curbs, Patriarch are already strong enough thanks to my shipyard to where I've had to cut them and HOP off. I wanted to see what curbs would do with the fleet, prolong any war and see if it would make any difference at all.
Dreamweaver Jul 3, 2020 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by yaroslav.fursov:
I have sided with Patriarch against Court of Curbs

During the storyline, they tell you what the fleet is for. Either supporting the Curbs, or if you choose to side with Patriarchy, to act as decoys/bombs. Honestly, after a certain point in the empire-building side of the game, money and the like becomes trivial. 400m means nothing when you can earn that much in an hour or so off of your own shipyard/wharf sales. Likewise, if you use your own shipyard/wharf to build the fleet, the cost is 10x lower.

It is how coup de tats work. The ones enacting the coup usually need to show a display of power before others are willing to put their own lives on the line and join up. It's basic rebellion tactics.

Also, missions aren't all designed to have a greater monetary reward than what they cost. Missions are objectives. Things that need to be done. Not all missions NEED to be financially rewarding. It is there to further the plot of the story, not to simply pay you in cash for "doing the thing".
Last edited by Dreamweaver; Jul 3, 2020 @ 7:17pm
Gennadiy Apr 28, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
After reading up on the factions, I realized they ALL suck and there is no "good" choice. So I sided with curbs to get their civil war going and have split bleed each other. Then I declared war and wiped all their factions out one by one. No room for slaver scum in my universe.
Aieonae Apr 28, 2023 @ 5:45pm 
Side Curbs here. More frienemies more profits.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2868120916

Also siding with Curb doesn't automatically means -30 ZYA, in fact, I actually maintain +20 REP all the way until ZYA overthrow by RHA and FRF.
Last edited by Aieonae; Apr 29, 2023 @ 3:10am
Zarbow Apr 29, 2023 @ 2:45am 
I side with ZYA because ZYA is in War with other Factions and War = Profit if you side with Curp ZYA swith to RHA ant they have no war means no Profit. CURP have no war too so no Profit with Split. :steamthumbsdown:
Aieonae Apr 29, 2023 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by Zarbow:
I side with ZYA because ZYA is in War with other Factions and War = Profit if you side with Curp ZYA swith to RHA ant they have no war means no Profit. CURP have no war too so no Profit with Split. :steamthumbsdown:

Frankly, your concerns are still poking the hell at each other if you ask me in my game.

Both FRF and RHA are still actively fighting Argon, if not each other small time skirmishes. Not to mention FRF, RHA and CUB while claims to settle for uneasy cease fire, they have more border skirmishes that I can feed ship sales to them all.

All these despite concluding the plot for my game.

So you might want to consider those mailbox messages flavor text at best. Given the lack of contenders literally already less profits. But sure it did be supposedly more or less peaceful in some way.
Wolfsblut Apr 29, 2023 @ 3:25am 
Patriarchy or Court of Curbs

Patriarchy:
Stbilize the Split Fraction ZYA

Court of Curbs:
De-Stabilize the ZYA Fraction


that for short of what it does. is your split too strong? go for helping curbs if they´re often get they´re sectors overtaken i would choose the Patriarchy to be supported. in the end i didnt see much of a matter what it does
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