So I captured a Xenon I...

[bloodymonarch]

Looking at how big it is only makes me realize how tiny my little "destroyers" are. Also, why make the most impressive looking ship in the game an enemy ship we can never pilot?

I wish Paranid Odysseus models didn't look like giant hair dryers in space... They really do need to touch up the ship designs they already have. No one will use them if the newer ships actually look good in 3.0.

[grapplehoeker]

Now, now... if you were a Paranid, you'd appreciate the beauty of the Odysseus.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
and the Paranid have 3 eyes!

[hurepoix]

Oprindeligt skrevet af bloodymonarch:

I wish Paranid Odysseus models didn't look like giant hair dryers in space...

So true.

Ship design is an other part where lack of work (lack of budget ?) is obvious. Paranid resupplier is an hairdryer which lose its handle, Small thetys is a perseus with sightly differents wings, and all large teladi ships have the same hemisphere head.

So yes a little touch on ships design would be wlecome ... if it wasnt the entire game who need little touch (or big one)

[Ghostwind]

there were so good ship models in x-rebirth. wonders me, that the capital ship design is so worse in x4.

[Bozz 💀]

yeah it's bad right now specially for destroyers... but split ships are looking cool.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

the odysseus in particular suffers from having to fit an M dock.

Would be nice if the Paranid got another destroyer design :^)

Maybe a big Plutus (i love how that ship looks) or something based on the Hyperion.

[Big Papa]

can we cap xenon now, I thought they made them uncapable in newer versions.

[eMYNOCK]

Oprindeligt skrevet af vanhelsing:

can we cap xenon now, I thought they made them uncapable in newer versions.

there is a known exploit that involved space suit EMPs and a repair Laser...

Xenon are not meant to be player controlled, therefore i can nor will i go further into details or will give any hints if this is subject to change.

[Big Papa]

lol OK.

[SpaceToast]

would it really hurt to allow capture of xenon ships, lore be damned?

[Ghostwind]

but wouldnt make sense. what do you want with a ship with out any any infrastructure (life suport, gangways, living room....) for a living subject.

None of the the other factions would like to buy such a thing.

beside this, there would be too perhaps the danger of infecting with a dangerous A.I.

[SpaceToast]

I mean, id even be ok with just ''hacking'' the target through some long complicated and expensive process. I just miss having xenon trophy ships from my X3 days I suppose lol.

[Ghostwind]

wonders me more, that the Xenon arent more aggressive with hacking their enemies. thats their domain

[Bozz 💀]

yeah I always thought the same, some features in BSG Deadlock could be used, like xenons hacking turrets or missile guidance, that would be a nice feature.

[bloodymonarch]

The more I look at the designs, the more I think that the problem for the bigger ships is that they have the docking on the exterior of the ships. I think the reason why the Odysseus hair dryers look the way they do is because of the landing bays, plus the need for it to feel "realistic" that those ships could actually be stored inside the ship. So the design is much more... vertical, as opposed to a saucer. Resulting in the hair dryer of doom we all know and... love?

With an ambitious game like this, and with how stations already have interior bays, I'm surprised they didn't go with internal fighter bays. It would have stopped the smaller ships landed on the backs of our capitals from shooting and damaging their own ride.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ghostwind:

but wouldnt make sense. what do you want with a ship with out any any infrastructure (life suport, gangways, living room....) for a living subject.

None of the the other factions would like to buy such a thing.

beside this, there would be too perhaps the danger of infecting with a dangerous A.I.

You could try to eliminate all life in the known sectors except for yourself. If your fleet is automated and your factories are all automated... You can basically be the leader of a Necron army. :P

[phoenix]

if you do not join in the war against the Xenon the other factions will actually wiper Mount completely eventually
your only threat will be Pirates and KHK and factions you decide to fight