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Scorcher24 Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:16pm
Miner drops his cargo before returning to station
I was observing my autominer a bit and he seems to be confused.
First, he had 90 Silicon in his cargo, then he dropped most of it down to 26 and brought those to station. Why? And I am wondering why I am not making money...
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Mike Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:18pm 
Mine do the same thing. It’s usually about 10% of the cargo with my medium miners.
Rampant Luck Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:21pm 
They probably mine to full, then drop whatever the station they target won't take.
Scorcher24 Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:23pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1581859210

He was full, then he dropped down to 27 again. He didn't unload at the station this time, but went on mining the next asteroid. And my station is empty and waiting for silicon...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1581860218
Last edited by Scorcher24; Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:24pm
Malkuth Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Scorcher24:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1581859210

He was full, then he dropped down to 27 again. He didn't unload at the station this time, but went on mining the next asteroid. And my station is empty and waiting for silicon...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1581860218

Ughh that sounds like a bad scripting check. Meaning whoever wrote the script once you full dies a check to find where it sells. If it doesn’t find anything the script is set to dump cargo and loop back to start. Ie going back to mine.

Sounds like they might have been trying not to get the AI stuck looking for something, or it’s missing a hook to do something else.

Wondering if you can have a transport hang around your miners with orders to pick up dropped crates? No idea at work can’t check!
Last edited by Malkuth; Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:38pm
Shadowreaver Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:51pm 
Have you checked the distance for sell-traveling (under the resources which should be mined set at least to 4 from 0 default justto be sure)? If there is no need for your resources the Cargo will be dumped to space so make sure to keep that in mind
Malkuth Dec 3, 2018 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by Shadowreaver:
Have you checked the distance for sell-traveling (under the resources which should be mined set at least to 4 from 0 default justto be sure)? If there is no need for your resources the Cargo will be dumped to space so make sure to keep that in mind

I have the feeling that the AI uses the same automine and autotrade we do. So they looped the scripts for the economy would not die or get stuck. That’s why AI is dumping cargo and selling at a loss.

If the ships get stuck it will cause even more problems with the living economy and the fact that all ships have to be built and not spawned.
Scorcher24 Dec 4, 2018 @ 2:07am 
Originally posted by Shadowreaver:
Have you checked the distance for sell-traveling (under the resources which should be mined set at least to 4 from 0 default justto be sure)? If there is no need for your resources the Cargo will be dumped to space so make sure to keep that in mind
The miner is a subordinate of Fort Sumter, my PHQ. There is no way to use the distance, since he is simply set as a Miner role for the PHQ. The manager there sucks with 0 stars, maybe that has something to do with it, but I am not finding any NPC with a management skill. I have been looking all over the place.
ZombieHunter Dec 4, 2018 @ 2:14am 
They will drop whatever isn't needed or won't be purchased. You can't just fill up a station with thousands of units of stuff. The station has a buy offer for a set amount b/c it won't buy more than it needs. I have not seen my miners drop anything yet. But I'm only mining in 1 sector with a range of 0 gates. Seemed the simplest way to do it.
Scorcher24 Dec 4, 2018 @ 2:19am 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
They will drop whatever isn't needed or won't be purchased.

Again, I have production that needs it.
And my PHQ is ordering the miner to mine silicon. So that cannot be the issue or there are colliding scripts involved.
Last edited by Scorcher24; Dec 4, 2018 @ 2:20am
ZombieHunter Dec 4, 2018 @ 2:21am 
Originally posted by Scorcher24:
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
They will drop whatever isn't needed or won't be purchased.

Again, I have production that needs it.
And my PHQ is ordering the miner to mine silicon. So that cannot be the issue or there are colliding scripts involved.
If they are trading with your station then they should not drop anything. That seems to be a bug.
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Date Posted: Dec 3, 2018 @ 2:16pm
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