Tutorial need serious works

[DeLastOne]

This is so difficult to understand what to do. Like right now I am to scan long range, I do it, but really nothing happen. Says I need to approach blinking signal on my radar or map but nothing appears after many scans.

You should really consider doing something of a serie of mission ONLY dedicated to tutorial and not having the player to manualy select those . This is really badle designed if the goal is to help new comers.

Please consider putting some better tuturial

[Peeto]

ok , perhaps yes, when u are first hour in game... later on, it is quite intuitive. You quite need to learn from tutorial only 2 things within half a minute.... one is, how to switch to travel mode and second, how to find missions.... that is quite it :)

[DeLastOne]

Originally posted by Peeto:

ok , perhaps zes, when u are first hour in game... later on, it is quite intuitive. You quite need to learn from tutorial onlz 25 thinks withon half minute.... one is how to switch to travel mode and second, how to find missions.... that is quite it :)

Will be on that asap. I am a X3 veteran so I am ok with this but it could really be something hard for new comers.

[Konscience]

Options to access only the text of the current tutorials, or an on screen button to go back and forth between messages would be welcome, as they a re sometimes too slow, or sometime you just forgot the previous message.

I agree about the tutorial missions, especially for the first start character (which is supposed to come with tutorials, never found them)

[DeLastOne]

Originally posted by Konscience:

Options to access only the text of the current tutorials, or an on screen button to go back and forth between messages would be welcome, as they a re sometimes too slow, or sometime you just forgot the previous message.

I agree about the tutorial missions, especially for the first start character (which is supposed to come with tutorials, never found them)

Did not had the patience nor the will to continue. I ve been asking for a refund and will keep follow the game and buy back in a few months if I see improvemtn on tutorial and some more works on bugs...

[Xorloth]

Hahah the tutorial is a joke! The only reason I'm coping with it, is because I played X3:Reunion back in the day. So I'm pretty confident I will love X4 if I only can get past the frustrating tutorial XD.


Yeah we absolutely need a message log or some kind that displays your current tutorial objective!
Right now the messages just continues without waiting for you. Only certain inputs here and there are needed from you and then you may have missed half of the messages already due to them being displayed on top of other text, making them unreadable.

On tutorial 3 with scanning it tells me to select scan mode then press DEL. Scan mode activated then what? Nothing happens.
Restarting the tutorial advanced me a little bit further. Sometimes I get a waypoint to a signal but then nothing. Restarting the tutorial again got me stuck at the DEL problem again.
At one time I managed to get to the long range scanner but then I got a phone call and missed all the messages about the long range scanning and restarting the tutorial again get's me stuck at the DEL problem XD

On tutorial 6 it helps me out of the ship with the spacesuit. There I learn how to use the repair laser. Then I read tutorial finished! Wait what?? How do I get back into the ship now?
Tried to enter the hatch where I came from but the doors are closed. Somehow the game bugs me through the hatch doors and I'm inside a tiny box. Ehhm what now? After trying different things I found out that I should right click my ship and ask for permission to dock. Then the hatch will open and and back in to ship.

But couldn't the tutorial have told me that?

[Uncle Jimbo]

Originally posted by Zefirth:

Hahah the tutorial is a joke! The only reason I'm coping with it, is because I played X3:Reunion back in the day. So I'm pretty confident I will love X4 if I only can get past the frustrating tutorial XD.

In tutorial 6 it helps me out of the ship with the spacesuit. There I learn how to use the repair laser. Then I read tutorial finished! Wait what?? How do I get back into the ship now?
Tried to enter the hatch where I came from but the doors are closed. Somehow the game bugs me through the hatch doors and I'm inside a tiny box. Ehhm what now? After trying different things I found out that I should right click my ship and ask for permission to dock. Then the hatch will open and and back in to ship.

But couldn't the tutorial have told me that?

You have to ask for a permission to dock? Damn, I just clipped through the ship and the game crashed, problem solved.

[Xorloth]

Hahahaha nice!

Feels like Egosoft made the tutorial in one evening. They should have asked some totally new to space sims to come and try it out, and adapted the tutorial after those persons questions and problems.

[DeLastOne]

Originally posted by Zefirth:

Hahahaha nice!

Feels like Egosoft made the tutorial in one evening. They should have asked some totally new to space sims to come and try it out, and adapted the tutorial after those persons questions and problems.

hehe well.. Egosoft are not very famous to ask for anything but forgiveness

[Malkuth]

Ya they are pretty terrible. :(

[DeLastOne]

I think my overall experience with the new approach they have on those X games is that the walking in station part is just unnecessary... It doesn't work and it is really ugly and cluncky. They should just stick to the space sim with docking. I do not see why it is they want to make this part...
Everyt single part could be done by the interface only. (recruiting board , shop etc...)

I just reinstalled X3 AP :)