Why would I ever build a bomber?

[Legendary Waffle]

Just like the title says. They don't seems to give any kind of benefit when it comes to bombing.

[Lucifer69]

Smaller than frigates so you would think they would have better maneuverability. Sadly, this isn't the case. The Paranid Nemesis Vanguard as an example, is far better than any bomber (it's a corvette). Technically the Nemesis is the only corvette in the game, however.

[Alith-Ahnar]

The Peregrine doubles down as a good gunboat option and it's four front firing turrets.
Got good speed decently agile enough for it's size and outstanding tank.

The Minotaur is a worse version of the Peregrine.

Peregrine and Minotaur are both inferior Ships in any role compared to the Nemesis if Piloted by the Player but as a dedicated missile platform controlled via the Ai i prefer a Peregrine over a Nemesis any Day less options to mess up with a mixed weapon setup and more buffer to get shot at.

Question should be do dedicated Bomber make any sense in the game right now and the Answer would be maybe?!

[Lucifer69]

If bombers had double/ triple missile capacity then I would definitely add them. As it stands they are kind of meh.

[Frater]

the peregrine looks awesome though,so if you go for looks

[OZZO]

Depends...
1. you can create a fleet of 10 bombers, they will decimate Xenon K in seconds.
2. when I attack Xenon stations I send a few Zeuses and as long as they take fire I order this fleet of 10 bombers to attack the station.

And I am definitely using Nemesis for this.

[Alith-Ahnar]

Originally posted by OZZO:

Depends...
1. you can create a fleet of 10 bombers, they will decimate Xenon K in seconds.
2. when I attack Xenon stations I send a few Zeuses and as long as they take fire I order this fleet of 10 bombers to attack the station.

And I am definitely using Nemesis for this.

Well my take on this is to spam 200 Kestrel Sentinel with Pulse Laser followed up by a bunch of Destroyer and watch the light show.

A K is fresh food just send in 5 Scouts followed up by a few heavy hitter and they are done send in 30+ Defence Drones and they are done.

[Frater]

capital ships are in a bad place for now IMO,carrier are only good because they can repair fighters and corvettes and help skipping micro managing swarms
i'd say squads of fighters are the most powerfull thing right now,especially the durable ones like the Falcon/eclipse or the super nimble ones like the Perseus

[Alith-Ahnar]

Originally posted by clemiz:

capital ships are in a bad place for now IMO,carrier are only good because they can repair fighters and corvettes and help skipping micro managing swarms
i'd say squads of fighters are the most powerfull thing right now,especially the durable ones like the Falcon/eclipse or the super nimble ones like the Perseus

Fighters Yes they dominate at least not as bad as in X³.

The Carriers job is to be a battle Taxi and a anchor to a Fleet that's it they would do even without any weapons and still be perfect in a carrier role.

Certain Fighter are only effective if you start modding via the shipyard workbench and push max speed and agility yet i agree there are some that do good straight without modding yet those only have two weapon mounts.

About Capitals i agree sit in a limbo as do L/XL Ships in general you have to mod those Large Ships and tweak in a specific use case something not everyone considers reasonable.

[Alith-Ahnar]

Originally posted by Lullaby:

Just make a ceberus, 350m/s, 2xtorpedo, 4 beam turrets, and put em all on "attack all enemies". Still best player setup :P

Best Player Setup is a blob of 400 Pegasus, you control from your Space Suite.

[Warnoise]

as long as any ship can equip torpedo, the bomber will stay useless

[Frater]

i think the peregrine is actually pretty good,thanks to his 3 shield generators,small frontal silhouette and 4 turrets that can focus a single target

it also has decent speed

[Lucifer69]

Originally posted by Lullaby:

Originally posted by Warnoise:

as long as any ship can equip torpedo, the bomber will stay useless

The bomber is supposed to use torpedos, cause it has 4 turrets for defense lol... derp

Technically, there's only one ship that isn't a bomber in the entire combat medium class.

[eMYNOCK]

Originally posted by clemiz:

i think the peregrine is actually pretty good,thanks to his 3 shield generators,small frontal silhouette and 4 turrets that can focus a single target

it also has decent speed

Just because someone (not me tbh) gave that Class the Name "Bomber" nobody is forced to put the Minotaur and Peregrine into use as a Bomber.

They are great multi purpose Ships, i personally use Groups of 3 to 5 Peregrines in forward X Formation as Carrier Escorts.

[Warnoise]

Originally posted by Lullaby:

Originally posted by Warnoise:

as long as any ship can equip torpedo, the bomber will stay useless

The bomber is supposed to use torpedos, cause it has 4 turrets for defense lol... derp

Why use it when we have Cerberus, Gorgon and Osprey which can equip torpedoes and are faster (not all of them however) better turret positioning, tankier and on top of that can also carry defense drones with them.

The only solution to this problem is either giving bombers class specific weapons or make them the only class to equip MK2 torpedo launchers.

[Legendary Waffle]

Originally posted by eMYNOCK:

Originally posted by clemiz:

i think the peregrine is actually pretty good,thanks to his 3 shield generators,small frontal silhouette and 4 turrets that can focus a single target

it also has decent speed

Just because someone (not me tbh) gave that Class the Name "Bomber" nobody is forced to put the Minotaur and Peregrine into use as a Bomber.

They are great multi purpose Ships, i personally use Groups of 3 to 5 Peregrines in forward X Formation as Carrier Escorts.

Now that is something I haven't thought of, actually just forgetting the labels on each ship and just use them.

However I don't agree with using them as escorts mostly because i feel like turrets are mostly not effective.