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Mr.Freud Sep 21, 2019 @ 8:47am
Traders and illegal wares
So I just noticed that non of my traders trade in illegal wares - spacefuell, weed and dust. I even tried moving them to sectors with were wares are being mass produced and put only those wares on their list and give them max buy and sell ranges. They still sit there idiling with auto-trade commands. Is this a bug or am I missing something? game ver. 2.6beta2
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Alith-Ahnar Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:26am 
If there is no sell order visible to the trader in range that is considered good (a certain percentage below average iirc) and a fitting sell order with a certain markup your auto trader won't even blink.
Player 1 Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:31am 
Set out more Satellites...
Mr.Freud Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:37am 
there are lowest sell offers and max buy offers possible in range.
I also use Sat. Mod that updates all offers in each sector
eMYNOCK  [developer] Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:39am 
Traders will always buy for below Average and will always sell for above Average Price.

If your Traders ain't Trading they either can not buy below average or can not sell above Average.

The Trade Stations that Buy Booze, Weed and Dust will only buy at the average Price rendering such Trades unprofitable in the minds of your Pilots.

Should you really want to get a foothold in Trading with the Contraband Wares you should open up some Black Markets.. you can find the Related Missions when scanning Communication Leaks on Stations.
Mr.Freud Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:42am 
What if I want to build those stations myself and start trading - Is it legal or will factions become hostile if i build those stations in their space?
Alith-Ahnar Sep 21, 2019 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Mr. Freud:
What if I want to build those stations myself and start trading - Is it legal or will factions become hostile if i build those stations in their space?

If you produce certain illegal goods in certain system local law enforcement might not care.
Space Fuel is legal in Argon Space for example as is space weed in Teladi Space Mja Dust tho is a thrice damned sacrilege and shall be punished by fire and furry in Paranid space.
eMYNOCK  [developer] Sep 21, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Alith-Ahnar:
Originally posted by Mr. Freud:
What if I want to build those stations myself and start trading - Is it legal or will factions become hostile if i build those stations in their space?

If you produce certain illegal goods in certain system local law enforcement might not care.
Space Fuel is legal in Argon Space for example as is space weed in Teladi Space Mja Dust tho is a thrice damned sacrilege and shall be punished by fire and furry in Paranid space.

I may want to correct you with the Space Fuel... that is handled throughout Argon Space like Prohibition Whiskey.

You either need a Bar License or you have to get it prescribed by your trusted "doctor".

The Teladi will buy and consume it regardless... and they will also use Maja Dust.
mmmcheesywaffles Sep 21, 2019 @ 11:35am 
You can find station traders willing to give you good prices for your illegals in HAT or SCA bases. A good reason to keep a good rep with HAT [SCA is rep locked so no need to worry except that your selling price may be lower.

I have found that some stations have more than 1 trader and they offer different prices. It pays to shop around :)
Mr.Freud Sep 21, 2019 @ 2:04pm 
I decided to try weed production in the unowned sector on the Teladi-Paranid border. My guess is that police patrols will make it hard for me me to keep steady income (wish I could lobby the "legalize!" movement lol). Is there some sort of license for trading in illegals if I reach max relation lvl with factions?
Mr.Freud Sep 22, 2019 @ 4:42am 
ok so that was the dumbest buisness idea ever! why the hell my station traders dont sell weed? set manually lowest price possible and there is 1 station nearby that buys with above average price. only ai traders come from time to time. it really needs to be revised - whole illegal wares market I mean.
Last edited by Mr.Freud; Sep 22, 2019 @ 5:04am
Mr.Freud Sep 22, 2019 @ 4:45am 
at least make it an option so that traders can trade in those goods if a player want them to! it's really a stupid limitation. I dont remember what game ver it was but in the past they were trading in illegals alright and were making huge profits
Last edited by Mr.Freud; Sep 22, 2019 @ 5:25am
Alith-Ahnar Sep 22, 2019 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by Mr. Freud:
at least make it an option so that traders can trade in those goods if a player want them to! it's really a stupid limitation. I dont remember what game ver it was but in the past they were trading in illegals alright and were making huge profits

All other issues that can arise aside i point one major out that is you don't have any good buyers.

To get good buyers unlock a "Black Market Trader" on a NPC Station in a semi remote area for you to exploit.

Your somewhat above average Buyer is the Trade Station next Door that is not a good trade opportunity like i mentioned above you could try to unlock a BMT on the TradeHub and the margins would rise for certain goods.
Mr.Freud Sep 22, 2019 @ 5:41am 
if i unlock black market - how will it work? will my traders see it as a above average export place? will guys from black market come to buy themselves?
Alith-Ahnar Sep 22, 2019 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Mr. Freud:
if i unlock black market - how will it work? will my traders see it as a above average export place? will guys from black market come to buy themselves?

The BMT opens up two ways of interaction for you.
1. You can talk to the BMT inside the Bar a new room that you can access on the Station and trade in small Items like hacking equipment and unstable crystals and such all the illegal small things.
2. The BMT adds contraband Buy and Sell Orders to the Station those are marked as well to clarify that you can either access those offers through the BMT in Person or normal via the trade interaction of the Station.
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Date Posted: Sep 21, 2019 @ 8:47am
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