Steam Achievements?

[LiLRotum]

Is there any intention to work on this game's Steam integration by perhaps adding Steam achievements? The game being available on Steam is all good and fine, but it seems a bit wasteful to bring it to Steam if it isn't going to be taking advantage of many of Steam's features.

[Freyar]

Let's hope.

[Ryoshi1]

I would buy if they had them! Even only for thirty days :D

[Mr Zero - 零先生]

You would think that it would seeing as the PS3 has them...

[Mhmmm]

Well, the game don't have Steamworks, that's why. But yeah, they should give us ps3 trophies in form of Steam achievements.

[[OT]Nekrage]

Lets get some steam achievements!

[Tumas Altaawus]

They'd need to integrate the game with Steamworks, which at this point probably seems like a waste of time to Square Enix.

[[OT]Nekrage]

✈ ▌ ▌ Chargeback Thomas a écrit :

They'd need to integrate the game with Steamworks, which at this point probably seems like a waste of time to Square Enix.

Would only serve to increase sales.

[Tumas Altaawus]

Only by a small amount. Those who are interested in the game would get it regardless, even if it wasn't on Steam. Steam sales make up for a tiny fraction of FFXIV's overall sales. Adding Steamworks isn't worth the effort in their eyes, because most aren't too fussed if achievements are on Steam or not.

[LiLRotum]

Several users complain about the quality of FFXIV's Steam integration, with some users complaining that the game's updates frequently fail to be applied via Steam. That in mind, I could see the implementation of Steam Achievements as a message of commitment from Square Enix to better support for FFXIV on the Steam platform. If improved support for the game through Steam is made a priority - including substantial, meaningful integration with Steamworks - then perhaps Steam wouldn't only "make up for a tiny fraction of FFXIV's overall sales." Achievements are a standard on other platforms such as Playstation and Xbox, so why should PC users not enjoy the standard that Square Enix offers to its console playerbase? Proper Steam integration - including, but of course not limited to, Steam achievements - would send a great message to Square Enix's customers: "We support our games."

[Tumas Altaawus]

PC users do get achievements, they're in game and viewable on the Lodestone. Why should Steam buyers only have achievements, and every other customer get left out? Unless SE were to start distributing Steam keys, which adds more hassle their side and makes them want to integrate less.

Also, updates don't need to be pushed through Steam. Any active player of the game knows when patches are upcoming, and would launch the client anyway.

[LiLRotum]

Playstation customers get achievements that integrate with the console's achievement system, Playstation Trophies, so it would seem that PC users in general get, to some extent, left out on that frontier. The case of the "every customer...left out" scenario, then, applies to PC users as a whole, as PS3 players receive achievement integration with their platform. With regard to Steam buyers receiving Steam achievements being unfair to other customers, that's an unavoidable issue if Square Enix is already offering Playstation Trophies. The best option, at this point, is to offer the best support and integration possible for the distribution platforms' on which they choose to maintain FFXIV.

If one purchases FFXIV directly through Square Enix, then Achievements are available and viewable in-game through the Lodestone. If one prefers the PS3, then FFXIV already supports Trophy integration for the PS3. If one prefers Steam, and purchases FFXIV through Steam, then integration for Steam Achievements should be accomodated. PC Players who feel "left out" as a result of the presence of Steam Achievements would only be left out as per their own choosing, as they can simply elect to use Steam if they desire the ability to obtain Steam Achievements.

Purchasing the game directly through Square Enix yields merely the standard in-game achievement support, while purchasing the game on the PS3 yields the option to obtain Playstation Trophies; if the player wants Playstation Trophies, then he is not barred from purchasing FFXIV on the PS3, as it is an option for him. It would be a similar scenario if FFXIV developers were to offer Steam Achievement integration; players are not "left out" as a result of this option, as Steam is free to download, and if, for whatever reason, a given player does not like Steam, then he has no valid reason to feel left out, nor a reason to care whether Steam Achievements are supported.

As a final point, since Steam is a free platform to obtain, it's easy to see that there is less of a chance of any "left out" feeling to occur among the consumer base. Most people own a computer even if it's just for daily activities, but it's likely that less players own a console. The true sense of being "left out," then, should more reasonably come from the idea that PS3 players have their platform achievement-accomodated while there is no such accomodation afforded to PC players who use Steam, which is one of the most popular PC gaming services that allows for such an accomodation to occur.

It is not as if PS3,PC, and Steam are names of different countries, with each "country" receiving its own set of features. The option to purchase and play FFXIV on any of these platforms is available to any player; therefore it does not make sense to impose limitations on services and support rendered for the sake of preventing any sort of feeling of a consumer being "left out."

[Gabby]

To point something out, if SE really wanted to give that illusion at ALL, they COULD put in Cards, Wallpapers, etc, those do NOT require Steam Integration at all, they're entirely Steam-side services.

So... when we see something that really doesn't take a lot of effort like that... we can start wondering about Steam Integration.

[Big Boom Boom]

Does E.V.E Online has Steam Achievement, trading card, wallpapers? No. There you go.

P2P MMORPGs don't care about those stuff on Steam, since Steam sale equals percentage cut from their profit. Ever wonder why WoW isn't on Steam? Cause Blizzard don't want, don't care, don't need to split profit with Steam. Generally if they are P2P MMO they are successful enough to afford to do so because otherwise they go "Unlimited" and drop subs fee like some other games.

[[OT]Nekrage]

Big Boom Boom a écrit :

Does E.V.E Online has Steam Achievement, trading card, wallpapers? No. There you go.

Ohhh I didnt look at it that way. If one game is missing a feature, ALL games should also be missing that feature. Thanks I understand now.

Idiot.

[Big Boom Boom]

OTNekrage a écrit :

Big Boom Boom a écrit :

Does E.V.E Online has Steam Achievement, trading card, wallpapers? No. There you go.

Ohhh I didnt look at it that way. If one game is missing a feature, ALL games should also be missing that feature. Thanks I understand now.

Idiot.

Or the other way, if one game has a feature, all games MUST have those features. Thanks I understand now.

Idiot.

Did you actually read why SE, CCP, Blizzard or EA give a *beeps* why they need Steam Achievements?

In fact, Funcom and ZeniMax Online Studio also doesn't give a *beeps* why they need Steam Achievement.