I hate the MSQ.

[Sparky]

There, I said it.

The story itself is fine but getting there has so much back tracking and unnecessary dog-legging it's unbearable.

[Sel Und Irae]

I agree, However, Only for A Realm Reborn.
The rest of the story is great but only the very last couple parts of ARR are any good the rest are garbage.

[Sparky]

"Go talk to this person, no now go talk to this person- find the missing children and then come talk to this person again"

[Hex]

Yeah they should do a realm rereborn.

[Hex]

Originally posted by Sparky:

"Go talk to this person, no now go talk to this person- find the missing children and then come talk to this person again"

You forgot that between every step you need to go to the waking sands to talk to milfina.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Sparky:

"Go talk to this person, no now go talk to this person- find the missing children and then come talk to this person again"

That is in every MMO you clearly haven't played WoW if you think this is remotely annoying.
If you want something that isn't like this go play Mabinogi or go play Warframe where the point is to kill enemies nonstop.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Hex:

Yeah they should do a realm rereborn.

It'd be nice. Or just start people in Ishgard after playing a short movie of (The story until now) give the new players a mega booster and create a sewer level under Ishgard for lowbies to level up to 50 for actual content.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Hex:

Originally posted by Sparky:

"Go talk to this person, no now go talk to this person- find the missing children and then come talk to this person again"

You forgot that between every step you need to go to the waking sands to talk to milfina.

Ngl, That's one thing i hated. you have a Linkshell directly to her and yet you have to see her in person? Why?

[Sparky]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

Originally posted by Sparky:

"Go talk to this person, no now go talk to this person- find the missing children and then come talk to this person again"

That is in every MMO you clearly haven't played WoW if you think this is remotely annoying.
If you want something that isn't like this go play Mabinogi or go play Warframe where the point is to kill enemies nonstop.

I've played WoW- And the thing about WoW is.... The content isn't locked behind a long main story quest. You may have to do one quest to unlock a raid or dungeon, but you would not have had to do a large chain of quests to unlock the content. You could skip all quests if you really wanted to in WoW, and when you're at max level most content would be available to you.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Sparky:

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

That is in every MMO you clearly haven't played WoW if you think this is remotely annoying.
If you want something that isn't like this go play Mabinogi or go play Warframe where the point is to kill enemies nonstop.

I've played WoW- And the thing about WoW is.... The content isn't locked behind a long main story quest. You may have to do one quest to unlock a raid or dungeon, but you would not have had to do a large chain of quests to unlock the content. You could skip all quests if you really wanted to in WoW, and when you're at max level most content would be available to you.

Have to agree with that one. Only reason i'm progressing the story in my game is cause i need to in order to go Mine the new regions.

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

Originally posted by Hex:

You forgot that between every step you need to go to the waking sands to talk to milfina.

Ngl, That's one thing i hated. you have a Linkshell directly to her and yet you have to see her in person? Why?

In-game it explains VERY early on that linkpearls are hackable. You do it regularly, and Tataru even comments on it. It's why Yda and Papalymo discard theirs after the banquet. Given you're doing these jobs, the idea is you're returning to base to be debriefed and cover sensitive information.

[Sel Und Irae]

Originally posted by Anakha:

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

Ngl, That's one thing i hated. you have a Linkshell directly to her and yet you have to see her in person? Why?

In-game it explains VERY early on that linkpearls are hackable. You do it regularly, and Tataru even comments on it. It's why Yda and Papalymo discard theirs after the banquet. Given you're doing these jobs, the idea is you're returning to base to be debriefed and cover sensitive information.

Then, Wouldn't it make more sense to just Force teleport the player? It really felt like it was intentionally there to make you waste GIL and Time to talk for 3 secs and then "okay go back to Limsa Lominsa" It gets better after ARR but ARR is just Cancer. It was sapping my will to play the game towards the end due to how tedious it was and how little each warp contributed to the plot on hand. Heavenwards in comparison feels 100x better the story is way better you easily feel invested in the plot unlike previous points. Also, Idk when they explained that but it must've been early EARLY on in Scion story cause i don't recall it or they retconned it out of story in recent snap.

[GeminiEclipse]

Pray return is definitely the worst part of the story. It still has low points in the expansions, but nothing as nearly as obnoxious. Well maybe the trolley...

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

Originally posted by Anakha:

In-game it explains VERY early on that linkpearls are hackable. You do it regularly, and Tataru even comments on it. It's why Yda and Papalymo discard theirs after the banquet. Given you're doing these jobs, the idea is you're returning to base to be debriefed and cover sensitive information.

Then, Wouldn't it make more sense to just Force teleport the player? It really felt like it was intentionally there to make you waste GIL and Time to talk for 3 secs and then "okay go back to Limsa Lominsa" It gets better after ARR but ARR is just Cancer. It was sapping my will to play the game towards the end due to how tedious it was and how little each warp contributed to the plot on hand. Heavenwards in comparison feels 100x better the story is way better you easily feel invested in the plot unlike previous points. Also, Idk when they explained that but it must've been early EARLY on in Scion story cause i don't recall it or they retconned it out of story in recent snap.

It's early on enough that they regularly hack linkpearls to get info on Garlean movements lmao You yourself get to do it and set up for it PERSONALLY during the lead-up to Ultima Weapon, but I'm pretty sure it's mentioned before that. It's been there since HW, because that's when I joined, people just... Didn't pay attention. Hell, Nero hacks a linkpearl in an unskippable cutscene mid-dungeon and people still forget this.

As well, this is why they've begin giving Vesper Bay teleport tickets. They cost 0 gil. You not using them is a you problem.

[Sel Und Irae]

I just went through fresh account and i'm 100% sure they didn't do anything like that prior to Ultima Weapon nor do i recall "hacking" linkshells. I think they removed that from the story when they culled half the story content from ARR instead of fully removing ARR.

Nero did hack a linkshell at point blank range yes but prior to that? No, It just wasn't there go see for yourself.

They should just yeet ARR and play a story cinematic at start of New Character and create some kind of sewer level in Ishgard for newbies to quickly level up and return to Heavensward.

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Sel Und Irae:

I just went through fresh account and i'm 100% sure they didn't do anything like that prior to Ultima Weapon nor do i recall "hacking" linkshells. I think they removed that from the story when they culled half the story content from ARR instead of fully removing ARR.

Nero did hack a linkshell at point blank range yes but prior to that? No, It just wasn't there go see for yourself.

They should just yeet ARR and play a story cinematic at start of New Character and create some kind of sewer level in Ishgard for newbies to quickly level up and return to Heavensward.

No, because ARR is where you get foundational information for the game, and how you meet a number of characters. You just really are weirdly obsessed with sewers.