let's talk about BLU

[mirta000]

https://youtu.be/UF26d5ivBGI

The job shouldn't be either
A) Limited
B) Reliant on other jobs
C) RNG based

[Gabby]

Nah, I’m just gonna let people have fun in their game and not try to overanalyze a new game feature as having to be something other than what it is.

[BurningTofu]

If cancer had a mascot, it will be blue.

[Oberon]

I have tried, on multiple occassions, to suggest ways BLU could have been properly balanced and thus allowed in regular content like all other jobs. And every time people freak the hell out. You'd think I was mocking their religion or something.

[Blue]

BurningTofu a écrit :

If cancer had a mascot, it will be blue.

*Hey! Thats not nice.*


The limited Job will be like some others we will get in the Future;
just to keep Players occupied.
And the Uploader of the Video never talks about the Solobattle Arnea, special made for that limited Class.
(You can learn a few spells there too ;P)

[Elazul]

I only leveled BLU because it had a huge XP boost to the Chocobo companion that finally allowed me to get it to rank 20 after years of slowly leveling the bird. Now that i'm finished with that I've found no reason to keep playing it. BLU is a sad attempt to keep players busy during the current content drought until the next Eureka drops which in itself is another sad attempt to keep players busy until the new expansion.

In short they BLU it lol...

[galacticcorgi]

BLU is fun. I like it as it is. You don't HAVE to. But I do. I wouldn't have fun with it if it was Yet Another Endgame Caster.

[Battlefoxx]

mirta000 a écrit :

https://youtu.be/UF26d5ivBGI

The job shouldn't be either
A) Limited
B) Reliant on other jobs
C) RNG based

About that...

A) Limited
This is the only thing I'd agree with if it weren't for the fact that BLU has insane potential. Access to all Status Effects, an AoE Nuke that, while KOing them, has massive potency which can easily be ~25% or more damage against the Lv 50 dungeon bosses; access to Demi spells (Missile / Doom / Tail Screw) which can wreck trash mobs - the list goes on. Try balancing that within a degree that doesn't make 50% of their set obsulete, nor making their set OP. Not impossible, but...

B) Reliant on other jobs
Excuse me? You can solo dungeons, you can cheese bosses, you can tank. And let's not get started with BLU parties... a TankBLU can sustain forever and cripple bosses / mobs, and DPS-wise the job is definitely capable of pulling their weight.
It does require certain spells to be effective, and I will agree that the Ex Primals can be a serious problem to farm if you're not willing to do mechanics (because ARR mechanics in 2019 lol) with a Lv 50 party. If you're using your brain however, a party of BLU can probably clear any ARR content, and I daresay a solo BLU can at the very least get through all the ARR dungeons that do not require a second person to bail them out of certain mechanics (Qarn Hard Mode comes to mind if you cannot DPS the enemy down quick enough).

C) RNG Based
Because Tail Screw with 100% hit chance should be allowed. If you mean Spell Drop RNG, well. Why is RNG in Stormblood Raids allowed..?

[mirta000]

Battlefoxx a écrit :

B) Reliant on other jobs
Excuse me? You can solo dungeons, you can cheese bosses, you can tank. And let's not get started with BLU parties... a TankBLU can sustain forever and cripple bosses / mobs, and DPS-wise the job is definitely capable of pulling their weight.
It does require certain spells to be effective, and I will agree that the Ex Primals can be a serious problem to farm if you're not willing to do mechanics (because ARR mechanics in 2019 lol) with a Lv 50 party. If you're using your brain however, a party of BLU can probably clear any ARR content, and I daresay a solo BLU can at the very least get through all the ARR dungeons that do not require a second person to bail them out of certain mechanics (Qarn Hard Mode comes to mind if you cannot DPS the enemy down quick enough).

C) RNG Based
Because Tail Screw with 100% hit chance should be allowed. If you mean Spell Drop RNG, well. Why is RNG in Stormblood Raids allowed..?

B. Tried all BLU Titan HARD party, not Ex. His tank buster goes right through you no matter what. Brayflox Longstop Hard was also very very difficult as any tank BLU will be 2 hit by the first boss that strikes often and a lot.

C. There's no RNG in Stormblood raids. You get tokens. You exchange tokens for gear.

[Gabby]

B) Maybe you're not using the right spells.

C) You're only covering half the raids, alliance raids are still entirely RNG.

[Battlefoxx]

mirta000 a écrit :

Battlefoxx a écrit :

B) Reliant on other jobs
Excuse me? You can solo dungeons, you can cheese bosses, you can tank. And let's not get started with BLU parties... a TankBLU can sustain forever and cripple bosses / mobs, and DPS-wise the job is definitely capable of pulling their weight.
It does require certain spells to be effective, and I will agree that the Ex Primals can be a serious problem to farm if you're not willing to do mechanics (because ARR mechanics in 2019 lol) with a Lv 50 party. If you're using your brain however, a party of BLU can probably clear any ARR content, and I daresay a solo BLU can at the very least get through all the ARR dungeons that do not require a second person to bail them out of certain mechanics (Qarn Hard Mode comes to mind if you cannot DPS the enemy down quick enough).

C) RNG Based
Because Tail Screw with 100% hit chance should be allowed. If you mean Spell Drop RNG, well. Why is RNG in Stormblood Raids allowed..?

B. Tried all BLU Titan HARD party, not Ex. His tank buster goes right through you no matter what. Brayflox Longstop Hard was also very very difficult as any tank BLU will be 2 hit by the first boss that strikes often and a lot.

C. There's no RNG in Stormblood raids. You get tokens. You exchange tokens for gear.

B) Consider Lv 115 Vit Accs instead of 130 Tomestone Caster Accs (or 115 Int Accs with Vit Meld). I doubt his Tankbuster is able to deal 7k Damage to you with Bad Breath's 10% Damage Dealt Debuff. If that's not enough, then yes, it'll be difficult to achieve.

C) Yes there is. As someone already answered, the 24-man raids are RNG-based drops. Not hearing anyone complain about that.
I could go for far stretches and say Omega Raid has RNG in it too - the additional chests (NOT token) are RNG drops, and rolling on them is RNG if you are not the only person wanting those.

[Oberon]

Choco Logical a écrit :

BLU is its own thing, and yet you can run trials, raids and dungeons up to level 50 with your friends playing other jobs.

Content that's been outdated for almost four years.

Choco Logical a écrit :

if you dont like the idea, dont play the job.

Or you can express your disapproval for it.

[Oberon]

Choco Logical a écrit :

The Mayor of Murder Town a écrit :

Content that's been outdated for almost four years.



Or you can express your disapproval for it.

i enjoy playing bluemage as it is, i enjoy the content thats been specifically made for bluemage aswell, and i'm looking forward to constant updates to the job such as level cap raise and new spells, which will alow it to catch up to more recent content eventually.

It won't. We already know it is going to perpetually lag behind all other jobs.

Choco Logical a écrit :

there is no ''outdated'' content.
the coils are useful for crafting materials, for achievements, titles, glamours, and even for Chloes Book.

So there's nothing useful in them.

Choco Logical a écrit :

so what's that weird talk about outdated content?

As in, content that everyone cleared years ago and has nothing of value in it anymore except for small odds and ends.

[Oberon]

Choco Logical a écrit :

The Mayor of Murder Town a écrit :

It won't. We already know it is going to perpetually lag behind all other jobs.



So there's nothing useful in them.



As in, content that everyone cleared years ago and has nothing of value in it anymore except for small odds and ends.

we already know, yes ?
source ?
BLU is going to lag behind all other jobs forever, yes ?
source ?
official statement stating this made up fact of yours ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/a9no0c/jp_media_interviews_with_yoshida_summary/

Choco Logical a écrit :

Coil titles, Achievements, Chloe's Book, Crafting Materials and Glamours are outdated, yes ?
nothing useful in them, yes ?

Correct.

Seriously, you think titles are useful? Oh yeah, good thing that healer had a Coil title, otherwise we'd have never completed Orbonne!

And the gear you get from Khloe's books isn't really great--it's 20 item levels behind upgraded tomestone gear and can't even be upgraded like the regular crafted gear without losing three of its materia slots--leaving it still behind upgraded tome gear and without the guaranteed pentameld that made it special to begin with.

Choco Logical a écrit :

which fact are you basing your denial on ?

Facts. Just facts in general.

Choco Logical a écrit :

seriously Mayor, give it up.

I'm sorry you're so butthurt that I don't like somehting that you're so obsessed with.

[Oberon]

Shirayuki Z a écrit :

The Mayor of Murder Town a écrit :

And every time people freak the hell out. You'd think I was mocking their religion or something.

Because you were. True God Yoshi P said BLU could not be balanced into regular content, his statement is absolute and anybody who dares to say otherwise should be whipped.

See, this is what I'm talking about.

[Oberon]

Choco Logical a écrit :

as a matter of fact, you are as wrong as you started out with your false statement, and even the link you provided proves your statement about the bluemage wrong..

No, it doesn't. But it's clear you don't want to listen even when a developer interview is posted. You're just so mad that someone would dare to speak ill of your beloved BLU. So I'm not going to waste my time trying to justify myself to you.

I hate how they implemented BLU. I see no use or benefit from leveling it. And there's nothing you can say to convince me otherwise. You are not the master of opinions, and you don't get to try and tell me I can't express mine.