Undertale

Undertale

T0M May 27, 2016 @ 8:35am
CHARA GENDER?(SPOILERS)
SOME WIKIS AND LORES SAYS SHE OTHERS SAYS HE I DONT KNOW
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ditt_25 May 27, 2016 @ 8:48am 
Chara's gender is intentionally never stated.

EDIT

Actually several characters are EXPLICTELY left unstated, with the game defferring to "they" (gender-neutral) pronouns.

Some believe it to be intentional ambiguity for purposes of immersion. That's the idea I go with personally. Other's believe it's either canon non-binary or canon neuter/genderless depending on the character in question.

As for the immersion issue, mishandling such an issue is actually QUITE capable of creating massive fan backlash. All I got to say on that is Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity (a subseries heavily story reliant despite both Pokemon and MD being better known for their gameplay) occasionally using a gendered pronoun for the protagonist, was a major talking point, in a negative way, about the game.

As for the UT characters who are referred to via gender-neutral pronouns (primarily "they"):
Main Character
Ruins Training Dummy's ghost
Napstablook
Monster Kid
"Happstablook" as a ghost
First Child

Might be a few others, but too lazy to check the text dumps before work.
Last edited by ditt_25; May 27, 2016 @ 9:01am
T0M May 27, 2016 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by ditt_25:
Chara's gender is intentionally never stated.
BUT WHAT DID THINK IT IS
T0M May 27, 2016 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by DTrmineited journeyman:
Originally posted by ditt_25:
Chara's gender is intentionally never stated.
BUT WHAT DID THINK IT IS
IN PT-BR LORES IT SAYS ITS FEMALE IN INGLISH IT SAYS ITS MALE
ditt_25 May 27, 2016 @ 9:12am 
"PT-BR?" Not familiar with that abbreviation.

MOST fanworks I see tend to use female or neutral pronouns for both Chara and Frisk.

Although not as common, I have seen Frisk with male pronouns in some notable fanworks. Dreemurr Reborn's Frisk being the first one I think of, although that particular AU does aknowledge/reference the existence of other, nonmale Frisks during the newer version of their Chara arc.

Seeing as you are supposed to think you named Frisk, but that you actually named Chara combined with what Toby said on his Twitter concerning what to name the fallen child , I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be up to each player to interpret both of those characters on their own.

Anyways, got to get to work for the next about 5-6 hours.
WolvenPyre Jun 3, 2016 @ 5:20pm 
i feel girl but its a boy, they say Asriel and Chara was brothers
Siblings. Adopted siblings. Not specifically brothers =)
Last edited by WolvenPyre; Jun 3, 2016 @ 5:21pm
fushigi friend Jun 3, 2016 @ 5:26pm 
He doesn't have a gender. It's for you to discide.

I personally dicided that in my playthrough, Frisk and Chara were both Boys, just because I'm a boy. I have nothing against girls, of course.
Originally posted by ditt_25:
"PT-BR?" Not familiar with that abbreviation.

MOST fanworks I see tend to use female or neutral pronouns for both Chara and Frisk.

Although not as common, I have seen Frisk with male pronouns in some notable fanworks. Dreemurr Reborn's Frisk being the first one I think of, although that particular AU does aknowledge/reference the existence of other, nonmale Frisks during the newer version of their Chara arc.

Seeing as you are supposed to think you named Frisk, but that you actually named Chara combined with what Toby said on his Twitter concerning what to name the fallen child , I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be up to each player to interpret both of those characters on their own.

Anyways, got to get to work for the next about 5-6 hours.

PT-BR = Brazilian Portuguese

Also English doesn't have a non-gender pronoun like some other languages do. "They" used in that way is actually grammatically incorrect. So in English the standard for a non-gender specific person or character is to just call them "he".
Kawasaki Ki-10 Sep 1, 2017 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Originally posted by ditt_25:
Also English doesn't have a non-gender pronoun like some other languages do. "They" used in that way is actually grammatically incorrect. So in English the standard for a non-gender specific person or character is to just call them "he".


I'm pretty sure that in english you use "they" if you don't know someone's gender. Where are you from?

edit: why does it go like that
Last edited by Kawasaki Ki-10; Sep 1, 2017 @ 7:51am
Originally posted by SC | Kitty Litter:
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Also English doesn't have a non-gender pronoun like some other languages do. "They" used in that way is actually grammatically incorrect. So in English the standard for a non-gender specific person or character is to just call them "he".
I'm pretty sure that in english you use "they" if you don't know someone's gender. Where are you from?

edit: why does it go like that
Fixed, and using they as a nongender specific pronoun has only more recently become accepted.
Last edited by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr; Sep 1, 2017 @ 8:55am
Kawasaki Ki-10 Sep 1, 2017 @ 9:21am 
damn, didn't realise you posted that a year ago
HavocTheMushroom Sep 1, 2017 @ 4:54pm 
I think that because they are monsters, they don't have the *ahem* stuff that would define a gender. For example, Sans is a skeleton. Thus, it is just composed of collagen and calcium. No gender in there. As for, say, Undyne, they refer to themselves and others refer to them is a "she." My guess is that they kind of pick their preferance and that's it.

As for the Human, Frisk, I have no idea. I think they are ment to be the player, so they're just the gender of the person controlling them. Chara, I assume by appearances, is a girl. Otherwise, no idea.

(Last though: I know this is late, but I didn't notice until after I started)
Locrian Sep 1, 2017 @ 6:07pm 
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Also English doesn't have a non-gender pronoun like some other languages do. "They" used in that way is actually grammatically incorrect. So in English the standard for a non-gender specific person or character is to just call them "he".
"They" is not incorrect. It's been used that way for hundreds of years. It's only called incorrect by people who dislike it.
Alyx Sep 1, 2017 @ 6:43pm 
Chara and Frisks gender has not been decided so at the moment they have no gender!
Originally posted by Zal:
Originally posted by (Edgy) Asriel Dreemurr:
Also English doesn't have a non-gender pronoun like some other languages do. "They" used in that way is actually grammatically incorrect. So in English the standard for a non-gender specific person or character is to just call them "he".
"They" is not incorrect. It's been used that way for hundreds of years. It's only called incorrect by people who dislike it.
Thread from 2016.
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