64-bit version for macOS 10.15 "Catalina"?

[Thunderforge]

I've been playing Day of the Tentacle Remastered on my Mac, and it's been working great! However, it's a 32-bit game, and the newly released macOS 10.15 "Catalina" does not support 32-bit apps at all.

I know that it's an older game, but is there any chance that we can get a 64-bit Mac version so that us Mac gamers can continue to play?

[Cheeseness]

I hope that everybody requesting this is also petitioning Apple to reinstate legacy 32 bit support. While Double Fine might be (edit: not something I can confirm either way) in a position to consider doing new builds of games that came out before the retirement of 32 bit support was announced (Full Throttle Remastered came out in April 2017, Apple announced their plans for phasing out 32 bit support in June 2017), but the vast majority of developers out there are definitely not.

If anybody should be responsible for the situation here, it's Apple, since they're the ones who're knowingly cutting users off from using existing software.

[Thunderforge]

Cheeseness eredeti hozzászólása:

I hope that everybody requesting this is also petitioning Apple to reinstate legacy 32 bit support.

And why not at the same time ask Apple to reinstate PowerPC support? Or Mac OS 9 support? Or 68000 support?

Apple has dropped each of those architectures in the past and developers who haven't kept up have lost support. Eventually, people move on. This isn't new, and it will happen again.

[Spiorad Dreugan]

I got it on macOS10.13.6 and i have the same problem. If you open up the game folder nothing is downloading, only the save file is there.

[Cheeseness]

Thunderforge eredeti hozzászólása:

Cheeseness eredeti hozzászólása:

I hope that everybody requesting this is also petitioning Apple to reinstate legacy 32 bit support.

And why not at the same time ask Apple to reinstate PowerPC support? Or Mac OS 9 support? Or 68000 support?

If you're wanting to run software made for those platforms, then that seems like a fair request to make - after all, you're the user (it'd certainly be something I'd be happy to see).

Thunderforge eredeti hozzászólása:

Apple has dropped each of those architectures in the past and developers who haven't kept up have lost support. Eventually, people move on. This isn't new, and it will happen again.

Obviously, I'm addressing the people who haven't moved on and are asking for updated versions of legacy games/other software. If running legacy software is something that users of the OS need/want to do, it makes sense to also express that need to the OS' developers.

Spiorad Dreugan eredeti hozzászólása:

I got it on macOS10.13.6 and i have the same problem. If you open up the game folder nothing is downloading, only the save file is there.

This seems to be a configuration issue that's been caused by setting up non-public 64 bit builds for internal testing via Steam. I'm not working with DF any more, but I'll give some people a nudge so that they're aware of the situation.

[Spiorad Dreugan]

Cheeseness eredeti hozzászólása:

Thunderforge eredeti hozzászólása:

And why not at the same time ask Apple to reinstate PowerPC support? Or Mac OS 9 support? Or 68000 support?

If you're wanting to run software made for those platforms, then that seems like a fair request to make - after all, you're the user (it'd certainly be something I'd be happy to see).

Thunderforge eredeti hozzászólása:

Apple has dropped each of those architectures in the past and developers who haven't kept up have lost support. Eventually, people move on. This isn't new, and it will happen again.

Obviously, I'm addressing the people who haven't moved on and are asking for updated versions of legacy games/other software. If running legacy software is something that users of the OS need/want to do, it makes sense to also express that need to the OS' developers.

Spiorad Dreugan eredeti hozzászólása:

I got it on macOS10.13.6 and i have the same problem. If you open up the game folder nothing is downloading, only the save file is there.

This seems to be a configuration issue that's been caused by setting up non-public 64 bit builds for internal testing via Steam. I'm not working with DF any more, but I'll give some people a nudge so that they're aware of the situation.

If you could I do indeed thank you very much.
I verified the integrity of the game files successfully, and wondered why the download was only 0.0kb when I tried a reinstall.

[Spiorad Dreugan]

The game is working well on my end after this mornings update. Thank you for the prompt patch.

[lordpeewee]

The store is no longer saying that the game is incompatible with MacOS 10.15 Catalina, and it's now showing in my Steam library as ready to play. Full Throttle Remastered too. I can install it but it still says it's a 32bit app and won't run. Anyone know what's going on here? Other 32bit games in my library are still blanked out.

[Spiorad Dreugan]

lordpeewee eredeti hozzászólása:

The store is no longer saying that the game is incompatible with MacOS 10.15 Catalina, and it's now showing in my Steam library as ready to play. Full Throttle Remastered too. I can install it but it still says it's a 32bit app and won't run. Anyone know what's going on here? Other 32bit games in my library are still blanked out.

yes, sadly that will happen now that 10.15 doesn’t support 32-bit, kick Cook where he deserves it for that, and Jobs retroactively for the iphone, etcetera . Apart from a dumb old mac gammers brief venting, I recommend backing up with Time Machine and downgrading. Otherwise you need to use other work arounds.


Here is a wacky way to go about it if you want to bother with Parallel Desktop: https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-run-32-bit-apps-in-macos-catalina

Parallels has a list of macOS download links and other information: https://www.parallels.com/blogs/run-32-bit-on-mac/

Here is a SheepShaver wrapper if you’re up to setting that up: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/sheepshaverwrapper.html

I just like to stick with 10.13.6 myself.

either one of these links should work, I think.
You should still be able to download an OS on the apple store and choose not to restart and install. If thats done right it will save as an installer in your applications folder.
Sorry if I don’t have pics to show you. I might throw together a picture tutorial on that some time when i’m not tired.

10.13
macappstores:/itunes.apple.com/app/id1246284741
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741


Much luck one way or another, hope all this nonsense helps a bit.

[archlich]

I can confirm that although steam says it's compatible, it is not:

file ~/Library/ApplicationSupport/Steam/steamapps/common/Day\ of\ the\ Tentacle\ Remastered/Dott.app/Contents/MacOS/Dott

/Library/ApplicationSupport/Steam/steamapps/common/Day of the Tentacle Remastered/Dott.app/Contents/MacOS/Dott: Mach-O executable i386

[lordpeewee]

Spiorad Dreugan eredeti hozzászólása:

lordpeewee eredeti hozzászólása:

The store is no longer saying that the game is incompatible with MacOS 10.15 Catalina, and it's now showing in my Steam library as ready to play. Full Throttle Remastered too. I can install it but it still says it's a 32bit app and won't run. Anyone know what's going on here? Other 32bit games in my library are still blanked out.

yes, sadly that will happen now that 10.15 doesn’t support 32-bit, kick Cook where he deserves it for that, and Jobs retroactively for the iphone, etcetera . Apart from a dumb old mac gammers brief venting, I recommend backing up with Time Machine and downgrading. Otherwise you need to use other work arounds.


Here is a wacky way to go about it if you want to bother with Parallel Desktop: https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-run-32-bit-apps-in-macos-catalina

Parallels has a list of macOS download links and other information: https://www.parallels.com/blogs/run-32-bit-on-mac/

Here is a SheepShaver wrapper if you’re up to setting that up: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/sheepshaverwrapper.html

I just like to stick with 10.13.6 myself.

either one of these links should work, I think.
You should still be able to download an OS on the apple store and choose not to restart and install. If thats done right it will save as an installer in your applications folder.
Sorry if I don’t have pics to show you. I might throw together a picture tutorial on that some time when i’m not tired.

10.13
macappstores:/itunes.apple.com/app/id1246284741
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741


Much luck one way or another, hope all this nonsense helps a bit.

Thanks so much! Really helpful info.

[Dragon]

Update has now fixed this, great.

[Thunderforge]

Confirmed, the game now runs without issue on macOS 10.15 Catalina. Thank you Double Fine Productions for the update to 64-bit!

[TargetmasterJoe]

Wait, this game works on 64-bit Mac now?

I mean, I understand developing for Mac is easier said than done, but I REALLY want to keep playing DOTT and Grim Fandango on my MacBook Pro even after I inevitably update my MacBook Pro, but really? 😳

EDIT: For reference, my MacBook Pro currently runs on Mojave 10.14.6.

[breun]

Double Fine's FAQ page about 64-bit Mac updates[support.doublefine.com] says that as of June 24, 2020 the following games have been updated for 64-bit:

* Broken Age
* Day of the Tentacle Remastered
* Full Throttle Remasted
* Grim Fandango Remastered

I just successfully started Day of the Tentacle Remastered on macOS Catalina!

Thanks Double Fine, this is great!

[Spiorad Dreugan]

I thank you as well Double Fine, very much.