Mis-click? Goodbye faction favor!!!

[Klawful]

I have shaky hands sometimes, one SLIGHT mid-click when trading and simply because I took a SINGLE vegetable the entire faction goes from Honoured to Neutral and wont trade with me anymore.

A status that took me days of hard work to achieve.

That, is absolute BS. HORRIBLE amateur programming and game design if I ever saw it.

[Geffin]

yeah I agree some of the ways you can lose thousands of faction points can be a bit silly. I often use console commands to fix silly faction losses.

[`KokoJacK_^]

Use unnarmed slot when trading or near friendlies so you won't mess up your rep by missclicking

[TwitchyJ]

Originally posted by `KokoJacK_^:

Use unnarmed slot when trading or near friendlies so you won't mess up your rep by missclicking

That wouldn't have changed anything here.
They were trying to press F on a trader and accidentally moved their mouse and pressed F on a plant right next to or behind a trader.
Having an empty slot would not have changed things one bit, and they may have even been on an empty slot.

To the OP, I agree 100% with you.
I have often mentioned this exact scenario since they introduced the traders. It happens quite often.
A single pixel moved on the mouse can cause this. It is quite a bad design IMO.

[GTO]

It is unfortunate that happened, maybe use a key combo instead of " F " or double click option if possible? Honestly don't know if you can, just came to mind. I made my power key " Y " to a combo of "right ALT+Y " for a similar reason, but not the same.

[TwitchyJ]

Originally posted by GTO:

It is unfortunate that happened, maybe use a key combo instead of " F " or double click option if possible? Honestly don't know if you can, just came to mind. I made my power key " Y " to a combo of "right ALT+Y " for a similar reason, but not the same.

Wouldn't change things.

Even if they rebound it to a combo key that same combo key would activate a trader the same as it picks a plant. It is the same keybind. So changing it wouldn't have changed the outcome. They still would have picked the plant on accident due to accidentally moving the mouse a hair the instant they pressed F, or in your case Shift+F (or whatever combo).

[GTO]

Originally posted by TwitchyJ:

Originally posted by GTO:

It is unfortunate that happened, maybe use a key combo instead of " F " or double click option if possible? Honestly don't know if you can, just came to mind. I made my power key " Y " to a combo of "right ALT+Y " for a similar reason, but not the same.

Wouldn't change things.

Even if they rebound it to a combo key that same combo key would activate a trader the same as it picks a plant. It is the same keybind. So changing it wouldn't have changed the outcome. They still would have picked the plant on accident due to accidentally moving the mouse a hair the instant the pressed F, or in your case Shift+F (or whatever combo).

yeah, true. i guess the only thing is for the rep system to at least have a slower decline.

[`KokoJacK_^]

Originally posted by TwitchyJ:

That wouldn't have changed anything here.
They were trying to press F on a trader and accidentally moved their mouse and pressed F on a plant right next to or behind a trader.
Having an empty slot would not have changed things one bit, and they may have even been on an empty slot.

To the OP, I agree 100% with you.
I have often mentioned this exact scenario since they introduced the traders. It happens quite often.
A single pixel moved on the mouse can cause this. It is quite a bad design IMO.

Oh, I thought they destroyed crops by shooting it.

An easy fix for Eleon to implement would be a pop-up window, like trying to steal from a container when your reputation is over unfriendly

Edit : Just tested on 1.10, taking Talon's crops only gives -29 rep and no longer drop you down to unfriendly despite the red text warning

[VulcanTourist]

Do the people currently affected by this know how to use the necessary console command that will correct it? The usage for this purpose is roughly:

faction rep local <FactionName | FactionAbbrev> <RepTotal>

The faction command performs multiple duties, but this form is for setting player relationships ("local" is the player; you can also use the command to tweak relationships between other factions, etc.).

The first variable will be any of the other faction names or three-letter abbreviations, like Zrx, Pol, or Tal, etc. The second variable is what you want the TOTAL amount of reputation to be; the total will dictate the state of the relationship, from Hostile to Honored.

I don't recall the threshold values that separate them, so someone else with functional rote memory can do that or you can suss it out from the Diplomacy frame. The range for each is 0 to 30,000, so the range for honored would be something like 21,000 to 30,000.

Of course you may have to guess at the specific amount in the range, since there will be no record of what it was before you got demoted unless you happened to look at the Diplomacy frame beforehand.

[Sabaithal]

It would be nice if there were some sort of "safe mode" where you won't take actions that negatively affect faction rep without a window or something popping up asking for verification. But only if the relation is neutral or above.

Because we all make mistakes, some really dumb ones sometimes, just not paying attention, you click on accident, and trigger WW3.

Also use what Vulcan pointed out, the game is very much experimental in nature, if you need to use the console to correct a simple mistake or fix a bug don't feel bad about it.

[Lfod]

That is a Klawful situation.

[UncleBadTouch]

I don't get why folks are unhappy with this. This happened to be and I realized this was my fault. negligence. Ass I had my gun out, transacting with the colonist vendor and I accidentally popped him in the head. Another time I park my CV outside a friendly POI, on a moon, to go buy stuff. and Zirax decided to attack my ship. It fired back and accidentally struck a Polaris, and I had to fight my way out of POI.

If IRL, you walked into a store with a gun in your hand c0cked & loaded and try to pay the cashier, you're just asking for a really bad results. Same goes if you jump in an armored vehicle (police, military or other).

You can NEVER trust a gun is on safety. First thing, you have to always double check.

So, after those 2 incidents in the game, before I enter a POI:
1. I press O to have nothing in my hands
2. I turn off turrets in CV
3. When I get back in CV, I immediately press the selection for the Detector.

The game handles this as if it is real life. So, the lack of caution and safety...aka the negligence is on the player.

As others have said,.....in solo, use Console Commands to reset faction rep pts. On server, there are missions you can do to get back Rep really fast.

You own your mistake. So, OWN IT, don't blame developers.

[TwitchyJ]

Originally posted by UncleBadTouch:

I don't get why folks are unhappy with this. This happened to be and I realized this was my fault. negligence. Ass I had my gun out,

You read the word "Mis-click" in the title and didn't read a single other word in the entire discussion.
Has nothing to do with shooting anything........

Originally posted by UncleBadTouch:

You own your mistake. So, OWN IT, don't blame developers.

No, YOUR own mistake for not reading the discussion at all.
As you say, time for you to "own it".

[armavir99]

Originally posted by UncleBadTouch:

.....
before I enter a POI
.....
2. I turn off turrets in CV
.....

Yeah. This is a very smart tactic to leave the ship defenseless in a potentially dangerous environment. Zirax and Legacy strongly encourage all players to use this wise idea.

[Steve]

Originally posted by armavir99:

Originally posted by UncleBadTouch:

.....
before I enter a POI
.....
2. I turn off turrets in CV
.....

Yeah. This is a very smart tactic to leave the ship defenseless in a potentially dangerous environment. Zirax and Legacy strongly encourage all players to use this wise idea.

Like the wily cat that pretends to expose its allegedly-vulnerable underbelly, the claws of my CV await!

(One mission actually specifically requires the player to turn off their weapons on station approach.)

[Sprocket66]

If it's a mis-click then it would be fair to fix it with a console command.