POI Attack strategies

[Attacca]

What are some of your favorite ways to attack POIs, especially shielded ones, and especially on the ground? I haven't played in ages, and I'm in Reforged Eden. I'm surprised how many things are shielded, and any tactics I used way back when don't seem to work any more. I'm finding that I can 'sorta' raid them, take out some of the rooms, but shielded turrets inside are unkillable?

[The Big Brzezinski]

In vanilla, I'd say use an artillery HV or a CV with a lot of 30 mm turrets against planetary POIs. Direct assault HVs and SVs can work as well, if you can find and angle.

You might try some of these in RE. I've only ever seen people undermine or rush up and plaster explosive charges everywhere in streams and videos. I don't know if these methods are preferred or not.

[Darksynapse]

RE SV's work good but you need Aux cores from Drone space

[Sabaithal]

Vanilla: Use a gunship with laser or plasma weapons to bring down perimeter emplacements (if any) and bring down POI shields while strafing. As soon as that's done, retreat (shielded POIs DO NOT regen their shields once completely down).

Then assault the POI with a superheavy assault tank. If you get a good one, only the strongest most fortified POIs in existence can withstand their firepower and durability.

[japp_02]

Strong HVs with artillery and better weapons than projectile guns, that's the only way against shielded POIs planetside, unless you chose to make a underground approach which I never do, too much work, besides: A player should not be able to destroy foundation blocks from underground if the POI shield is active, if you can then it's an exploit because of a bug, I'm not amused...And if the shield is not active there was no need to go underground anyway. Now, that said, it may be that firing against foundation blocks with lasers or artillery in repetition will overload the POI shield and eventually allow you to destroy it, but as said: too much work for me and I can do this ouside as well to create an entry leak.
SVs or CVs are only good to clear the surroundings of a strong POI, but not for attacking it, these vessels can only use projectile turrets which are useless against shields (other CV weapons won't work unless you mod them) but instead they can likely clear the weapons of weaker unshielded POIs.

In space you're gonna need laser turrets to defeat shields quickly, forget about projectile weapons, use your manual missiles together with strong turrets and artillery.

[Attacca]

I'm playing RE. So I raided a Zirax colony, this was what prompted the post. I used a disposable HV to rush to the door, one of my favorite approaches in Vanilla for early game. Inside were a few troops, easy enough, and I bottlenecked against some turrets. There were a few shield boosters, and on a whim I think I dropped over 30 explosive charges without the shields being affected.

[BraveCat]

my 2 methods always consist of
1) on foot - only when im armed to the teeth with everything I need including meds and food. dig a trench to approach while fending off drones and other hostiles. Take turrets out when in range of missile launcher.

2) Any vessel with a turret or gun with more range than the turrets im facing. This is what artillery turrets are for.

[mrx]

1) Tunnel up to or under base and shoot through bottom.
2) Bum rush a door using an expendable small SV.
3) Die close to a base and recover in their medical bay. This is a great way to get access to the space refinery.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Does anybody actually know of a way of outfighting a POI's exterior defenses with an SV or HV?

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by The Big Brzezinski:

Does anybody actually know of a way of outfighting a POI's exterior defenses with an SV or HV?

Yep. Make an SV with extremely powerful strafing (left and right side) engines and alternate between strafing around the target while firing weapons at it.

Whenever their weapons start to lock onto your path, switch to the other direction, or up/down.

Alternatively make an HV tank with a ton of forward armor, shields, and all the weapons you can stack on it. They WILL take down all but the strongest of POIs.

[The Big Brzezinski]

So thruster cheese, and throwing at much materiel as possible on a HV.

Well, at least I feel a lot better about using 30 mm turrets now.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909229825

[Sabaithal]

There is no "thruster cheese" for SVs. They're built to be the fastest vehicles available, their main advantage is speed. Using properly built thrusters to avoid enemy fire is a completely legitimate strategy.

If you have an alternative strategy for SVs for assaulting large targets, feel free to post it.

[The Big Brzezinski]

Well, when bothering with attack SVs, my method has been to make repeated attack runs from different angles based on the lay of the land and turret coverage. Ideally, multiple SVs would attack this way, each drawing fire as the boost away, clearing the way for the next attacker. Takes a while, but at least you get to fly around really fast, which is most of the fun of using an SV in the first place.

Cheese tactics are specifically those that reduce challenge significantly by doing actions that fall outside of verisimilitude. If a tactic is either skillful and interesting to employ or makes sense as part of the setting, it's not cheese. The combat building Fortnite is famous for is an example of the former. The skills required to conjure fortresses and breastworks on the spot obviously require a great deal of practice to master. For the latter, there's the use in strategy game of small, mobile raiding detachments from a hidden main army which a player can use to draw AI garrison from their fortifications into an ambush. One would be be tempted to call this an exploitation of a weak AI if not for numerous similar example of such mistakes from real commanders in history.

Jittering from side to side at an oscillating 10Gs in front of a group of turrets is neither of these things. It's just vehicular circle strafing, and not the fun kind with a cargo plane full of howitzers. Fortress defenses would have proximity fusing on rockets and flak shells to render movements pointless. It's cheese. It's classic video game cheese from the time of rocket launcher battles with cyberdemons, but it's still cheese.

Besides, you'd get the same performance a lot cheaper using strong lifting thrusters and high speed roll.

[japp_02]

Attacks with SVs (planetside) are always a short run for me: I fight until my shields get to 20-30% then I go away until they reload, this will be very soon so I don't like to use a SV if not clearing troops around the POI. And as I said against any shielded POI a SV is useless (don't know about RE in this case, I talk about Vanilla where you can only use projectile weapons).

[EzRyder]

i suggest you try all the suggestions and choose the one you enjoy the most
its funny to me how some say you 'cant do it this way' or that is 'cheesy'
the Entire point and Benefit of an open world game is there are more ways to accomplish any task - pick whatever way you want to use
personally i like to use different tactics depending on my mood each playthru
i have taken down planetside shielded bases on foot, with an sv, hv and a cv
there is no right or wrong way imo

[japp_02]

Originally posted by EzRyder:

i suggest you try all the suggestions and choose the one you enjoy the most
its funny to me how some say you 'cant do it this way' or that is 'cheesy'
the Entire point and Benefit of an open world game is there are more ways to accomplish any task - pick whatever way you want to use
personally i like to use different tactics depending on my mood each playthru
i have taken down planetside shielded bases on foot, with an sv, hv and a cv
there is no right or wrong way imo

Open world or not, some stuff will not work in EGS and you need to know quickly what's about or you will not enjoy or you're gonna post questions every 5 minutes...So it's not a question to play as you like unless you like dead ends...