Can Maximus and Lucy's Relationship Be Considered Woke?

[lungcao100]

I personally think it flows extremely well into the narrative. Both characters are acted well and fits into the lore perfectly.

I have seen some complaints on the diverse choice of character though. Surely this is simply a casting choice and there are no hidden messages behind these choices.

Unlike the inclusion of Dane (the he/girl) which is just blatant political pandering in my opinion. They really couldn't help themselves but to put in a transgender character into the wasteland.

[Wokelander]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

I personally think it flows extremely well into the narrative. Both characters are acted well and fits into the lore perfectly.

I have seen some complaints on the diverse choice of character though. Surely this is simply a casting choice and there are no hidden messages behind these choices.

Unlike the inclusion of Dane (the he/girl) which is just blatant political pandering in my opinion. They really couldn't help themselves but to put in a transgender character into the wasteland.

If you're the kind of person who takes offense at "mixed relationships" like we still live in the 1950s, I suppose it could

[Q]

I really wanted Maximus to fell in love with Dane, a progressive modern couple, such a wasted opportunity, lucy was too predictable, Dane should have been Max's lover.

what? don't you agree?

[lungcao100]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wokelander:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

I personally think it flows extremely well into the narrative. Both characters are acted well and fits into the lore perfectly.

I have seen some complaints on the diverse choice of character though. Surely this is simply a casting choice and there are no hidden messages behind these choices.

Unlike the inclusion of Dane (the he/girl) which is just blatant political pandering in my opinion. They really couldn't help themselves but to put in a transgender character into the wasteland.

If you're the kind of person who takes offense at "mixed relationships" like we still live in the 1950s, I suppose it could

The story and setting of fallout doesn't really allow for "mixed relationships" wouldn't you agree? Just hoping they won't pull what the Witcher did and destroy the show.

[Zalzany]

People who find that woke find a girl who can fight and shoot woke lol. But then again my state just upheld a law before it was even a state, and fun fact that law also would apply to Las Vegas who get this was in the territory of Arizona at the time lol.

[lungcao100]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von He-Man:

I really wanted Maximus to fell in love with Dane, a progressive modern couple, such a wasted opportunity, lucy was too predictable, Dane should have been Max's lover.

what? don't you agree?

The Brotherhood of Steel would court martial both of them lol

[Zalzany]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wokelander:

If you're the kind of person who takes offense at "mixed relationships" like we still live in the 1950s, I suppose it could

The story and setting of fallout doesn't really allow for "mixed relationships" wouldn't you agree? Just hoping they won't pull what the Witcher did and destroy the show.

It 100% does you can even do same sex romance with GHOULS in the game lol Just because you avoided all the same sex options, and ignored the interracial stuff in games don't mean anything you said just made any sense lol.

[Zalzany]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von He-Man:

I really wanted Maximus to fell in love with Dane, a progressive modern couple, such a wasted opportunity, lucy was too predictable, Dane should have been Max's lover.

what? don't you agree?

The Brotherhood of Steel would court martial both of them lol

Nah brotherhood pair up and marry all the time, just they have to make it past aspirant recruits first lol Dane is a herm has both parts they would allow Dane to date and marry either gender in all honesty lol

I mean come on in NV Veronica was born and raised in the Brotherhood a lot of them were before they lifted restriction on recruitment. If you actually played damn games you would know the basics lol

[Zekiran]

If you're racist, obviously it's bad.

If you're not racist, is there some ... thing I'm missing?

Whether you can yank it to a character is not a criteria to whether THEY are appropriate or accurately portrayed. That's a problem for you and your hand.

[Zalzany]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Boink:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

woke

I thought we moved past the agenda of woke with the color of the skin.

The whole woke is transgender or female getting "power" that they "don't work" for. That is the worst narrative driven by the media. Pushing the they/them narrative as better than both REAL biological male/female.

None is even in there one there is no TRANS there is no testorone treatment if Dane has a mustache its NATURAL one lol. Sorry 1 out of 1500 births has both genders, we do cover them up, surgically alter etc etc them. But I live in city of millions, trust me there is babies with both genders born all over the place, they just don't talk about and normally lop off on set of parts early on so no uteras working no estregon later, no testis no testorone issues. In freaking waste land that kind procedure is stupid and dangerous.

And where they getting this magic testorone that Dane never ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ uses in your heads? Also Dane supposedly earned it while Maximus was getting beat downs and you were routing for the guys doing it, Dane was off being productive little asperent lol. I mean zero proof dane got prompted becuase they are a she/he you just need it to be that to justify your own ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up little thoughts sigh. I mean ♥♥♥♥ I bet Dane tested highest on knowledge of tech while Maximus thought a circuit was a rotor...

And that is one the bigest things scribes do for BOS they don't stand there and be tokens they job is literally to access valuable tech, and strip it down or make notes and record for later excursions to secure or destroy it if they feel they can't take it all.

[Wokelander]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wokelander:

If you're the kind of person who takes offense at "mixed relationships" like we still live in the 1950s, I suppose it could

The story and setting of fallout doesn't really allow for "mixed relationships" wouldn't you agree? Just hoping they won't pull what the Witcher did and destroy the show.

Sure, a relationship is just a relationship, no particular signifiers or conditionals needed

[darien]

To me the relationship between the 2 feels off. Lucy is a vault dweller (Prime Human), Maximus is a wasteland (mutie). if i am not mistaken, vaultdwellers and enclave and some BoS ( the descendants of the original BoS) dont like wastelanders because they are not like prime humans. Wastelanders had their code messed up by FEV and radiation. Thats why the EDEN serum hurts wastelanders and not humans from pre war stock. It was odd to see Lucy fall for him after she went through all that struggle in the beginning. No idea about the woke stuff ppl keep mentioning though. Maybe they just say it cuz its amazon and they do have a nasty tendency to do woke stuff. The world of fallout is meant to be very dark. I hope the show keeps that same gritty post apocalyptic world fallout is so well known for.

[lungcao100]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wokelander:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lungcao100:

I personally think it flows extremely well into the narrative. Both characters are acted well and fits into the lore perfectly.

I have seen some complaints on the diverse choice of character though. Surely this is simply a casting choice and there are no hidden messages behind these choices.

Unlike the inclusion of Dane (the he/girl) which is just blatant political pandering in my opinion. They really couldn't help themselves but to put in a transgender character into the wasteland.

If you're the kind of person who takes offense at "mixed relationships" like we still live in the 1950s, I suppose it could

Also.. what I mean by this is..

The fallout universe is set in the 1950s era despite the bombs falling in 2077.

You can see this reflected by all the analog tech.

So im pretty sure they would have an issue with that mix

[darien]

The fallout universe is more of a 1970s mindset with 1950s aesthetic i believe.

[Boink]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zalzany:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Boink:

I thought we moved past the agenda of woke with the color of the skin.

The whole woke is transgender or female getting "power" that they "don't work" for. That is the worst narrative driven by the media. Pushing the they/them narrative as better than both REAL biological male/female.

None is even in there one there is no TRANS there is no testorone treatment if Dane has a mustache its NATURAL one lol. Sorry 1 out of 1500 births has both genders, we do cover them up, surgically alter etc etc them. But I live in city of millions, trust me there is babies with both genders born all over the place, they just don't talk about and normally lop off on set of parts early on so no uteras working no estregon later, no testis no testorone issues. In freaking waste land that kind procedure is stupid and dangerous.

And where they getting this magic testorone that Dane never ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ uses in your heads? Also Dane supposedly earned it while Maximus was getting beat downs and you were routing for the guys doing it, Dane was off being productive little asperent lol. I mean zero proof dane got prompted becuase they are a she/he you just need it to be that to justify your own ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up little thoughts sigh. I mean ♥♥♥♥ I bet Dane tested highest on knowledge of tech while Maximus thought a circuit was a rotor...

And that is one the bigest things scribes do for BOS they don't stand there and be tokens they job is literally to access valuable tech, and strip it down or make notes and record for later excursions to secure or destroy it if they feel they can't take it all.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care if there is a transgender actor in the T.V. series as long as they play their role in an entertainment platform.

Yes some women I've seen do have facial hair at least back when I was in highschool.

If I wanted something done "politically" I won't be sitting my ass in this chair pointing out my political views and/or twisted narratives to make me feel special. I go out there and make a difference POLITICALLY.

[Wokelander]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von darien:

To me the relationship between the 2 feels off. Lucy is a vault dweller (Prime Human), Maximus is a wasteland (mutie). if i am not mistaken, vaultdwellers and enclave and some BoS ( the descendants of the original BoS) dont like wastelanders because they are not like prime humans. Wastelanders had their code messed up by FEV and radiation. Thats why the EDEN serum hurts wastelanders and not humans from pre war stock. It was odd to see Lucy fall for him after she went through all that struggle in the beginning. No idea about the woke stuff ppl keep mentioning though. Maybe they just say it cuz its amazon and they do have a nasty tendency to do woke stuff. The world of fallout is meant to be very dark. I hope the show keeps that same gritty post apocalyptic world fallout is so well known for.

She's like 20 years old and recently discovered that sex is awesome, it was bound to happen 😄