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Q 11 ABR 2024 a las 5:30 p. m.
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Fallout TV Show is mediocre?
SPOILERS obviously, stop reading if you haven't watched the show yet

Episode 1 = 6.2
the best: the intro, vault design and music
the worst: goofy fight with annoying overused slow-mo effect and the background song, immersion breaking stuff

Episode 2 = 7.8
best = the dialogue and scene with old lady and lucy, that was great, then the intro with Ben Linus and dogmeat training facility also ghoul vs knight fight, good stuff.
worst = goofy, silly Maximus flying with no control due malfunction and screaming, looked like a looney tunes situation

Episode 3 = 6.8
best = the pink water mutant was cool, Mr Ghoul scenes were the best
worst = again the silly, dorky characters, goofy comedy, feels like the comedy you would expect from adam sandler or ben stiller movies. The Squire guy is a total jester, vault dwellers extremely dumb, naive but in a buffoonish way, immersion breaking

Episode 4 = 7.5
Best = Mr Handy scenes, the vault 32 mystery
Worst = the scene were both lose a finger was unnecesary

Episode 5 = 8.2
Best = The railroad, ruined shady sands, the hospital etc the streets it really looks like something you would expect from FO3 or FO4 almost a copy & paste stuff from the games, Vault 32 situation getting more mysterious and disturbing. 10/10
Worst = i'll watch it again cuz tbh so far i think this is my fav ep

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Episode 1 impressions

Slightly impressed but not enough, the part i enjoyed the most was just the beginning (episode 1) after that everything went down hill, not saying it was terrible but certainly it wasn't great either
(edit: finishing ep3, i must admit, it's getting better...)

Kinda reminds me of "zombieland, kick-a$$, suicide squad or bullet train" style of silly violent comedy, i was expecting something like "starship troopers" as in satire, comedy in a way that you obviously see it mixed pretty well with dark, bizzarre situations. in fallout show it's inserted randomly. then abruptly switch to drama getting rid of satire (BoS guy interrogation and tantrums) its odd, i bet they wanted to show us how males can be sensible, flawed, vulnerable etc.

Also they avoided talking about China but i won't get ahead of myself, haven't watched the rest so i assume they going to tell everyone and i mean the people watching the show that the US has been in conflict with China for a long time.

- DEI elements everywhere, it's pretty obvious, they tried so hard to make the vault dwellers and BoS recruits so diverse, different shapes, haircuts, facial features, all kinds of people etc funny how some are fat and others too skinny it's like the overseer is allowing em to be lazy and eat too much while others do the total opposite, makes no sense, then the protagonist is obvious "Strong Female character" also Maximus friend, "Dane" i was so confused, can't tell if is a she or he or agender or no idea.
Ohh and the dumb white males obviously gotta check that box and when they are not dumb, they are evil, of course, it should be expected.

- Unnecesary sex scene and fap scene. What the hec was the point of showing a guy masturbating in the barracks? why??? there was no need for such thing it doesn't add anything of value to the show or scene.
Then the protagonist removing her underwear to have sex with the guy she just met few minutes ago that was so unnecesary, if they wanted to show sex at least do it properly, clothes off etc nah they kept female character DRESSED and guy totally naked.

- The music was a nice surprise but it was too "high quality" i mean it doesn't have the old vibe cuz they kinda added remastered, polished tracks with no background noise so a bit of the "retro" feeling is lost.

- Is the BoS supposed to be this "religious"? performing ceremonies and wearing robes like ... "unity" would do or any other cultists like children of atom? did BoS performed such ceremonies in the games or acted in such way that you would believe they are a religious order, a cult?

- Everything is too colorful and bright, even in dark rooms or places that are supposed to be dark you can see everything its like there are tiny lamps everywhere, everything looks always iluminated even during night.

- Mr Ghoul scene is the same as Geralt scene in the witcher show or some "jedi" introduction, the obvious purpose was showing how cool and skilled and powerful he is by defeating bunch of random villians so easily, a cliche.

- A vault dweller looking for a missing relative? cmon dude, be original, how come thats the odyssey for the main character? same plot as fo3 and fo4 etc

and I could keep going, anyways it's not a bad episode but i was disappointed, i expected much more, the bad thing about a mediocre or bad episode 1 is that you dont feel too encouraged to keep going.
Última edición por Q; 20 ABR 2024 a las 12:28 a. m.
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Goof 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:03 a. m. 
i couldnt disagree more with the OP
It was extremely refreshing to see a solid story line with good acting and dialogue in a tv show. We've been so watered down in recent years and I think some people got used to it being the norm
Icedfate 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:08 a. m. 
Todds name is on it, so like it ot not, it's canon
Goof 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:10 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por $unwish:
Silo is the real Fallout TV Show.
silo was absolutely amazing
bacca400-stm 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:16 a. m. 
Yes it's mediocre. They're using the same old stereotypes to try and limp through a story. But almost all TV series don't really hold my interest as they have to really spread out the story line around a whole season from 10-20 episodes. And that makes the story diluted and uninteresting.

Lucy: very naive but learning as best as she can, has to rescue her father.

Ghoul Guy: angry about stuff in his human life, he'll probably turn around at some point because that's the stereotype.

I actually like "The Rings Of Power" more but I've heard no word on if there will be Season 2.
Icedfate 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:40 a. m. 
Lucy's story anout finding her father is different from the other stories. it reveals a bunch of stuff about prewar people and a conspiracy. .
but then, the Institute is also kinda like that.

the Ghoul Guy is a good guy who lost faith in humanity, had a face/heel turn and then meets the protagonist who then teaches him to how to be a good guy again and yeah, this is a cliche, but everything is cliche.
everything has been done.

I think the TV series is meant for newcomers, but also, there's a zillion references in there that only veterans of the series would notice, but then again, a lot of it is. references.
i feel like a lot of these references are just put in there just to be references, like "oh yeah, there's that thing that's in the games!" and "they said the thing that they say in the games!".

bottom line, it's a self contained story that takes places in the series Universe.

they seem to be planning a season 2, taking place in New Vegas, so we'll see how much they retcon in there. .
Última edición por Icedfate; 1 MAY 2024 a las 9:41 a. m.
hatta 1 MAY 2024 a las 12:40 p. m. 
I was on Prime again today and watched the show for the second time and for the first time in its entirety in English original.
And then I also watched "Batman 2 The Dark Knight 2008" for the first time and I saw into Lord of the Rings.

I skipped all of the violent scenes. They never interested me a second time.

The series is definitely mediocre in terms of craftsmanship. An official rating higher than 7 is completely unobjective and completely hysterical.

What I dislike the most in terms of craftsmanship:

1 the cut
The show has extremely quick cuts, and then no cuts at all for seconds. This is extremely stressful.

I also noticed how annoying the Prime Video browser was with "The Dark Knight" because I constantly wanted to pause and rewind.

2 ugly duckling doesn't become a swan
Individual actors are portrayed as less sympathetic than in real life, and others are portrayed as more likeable than in real life.
This is extremely irritating. Either all the actors are like this, or no one is like this.

Luckily the series avoided gothic genre, otherwise we would hear about the fate of an actor like Heath Ledger. if this story had better narrative design talent.

3 music
Music is way too in certain places. the same piece of music plays continuously for minutes.

Compared to "The Dark Knight", the music sometimes gives the impression of a cheap YouTube fan film.

4 I miss heavy weapons.
This scene in episode 8 where the power armor in the Vertibird is on the minigun, struck me as the most interesting action scene.
At this point I'm thinking of a cheap YouTube fan film, because a "power armor" made from papier-mâché can't carry a minigun like that. But the fact that the professionals don't depict it here as a gun carriage, remains the impression of cheap and unsatisfactory.

5 etc. Through characters like Moises Arias (Norm McLean) and Dave Register (Dave), i.e. the weak needy men (like the one currently in Germany who sued the Federal Constitutional Court or wiki/Tom_Kaulitz, etc.), the series seems 1 to 1 Reality copy and paste, as a YouTube fan film.
While "The Dark Knight" tells a concrete image of men, which is located in a parallel world, unknown to life experience, as escapism. With the Amazon Fallout Show you can now explain why the “Joker” is completely unrealistic, which I wouldn't have thought about without it.
Then there is the character "Barb Howard" who raises a huge topic, which is then just presented without purpose.
They should have cut that out and left it COMPLETELY for later, or told it properly.
(Reminder: There are these two thought buildings "On the origin of monkeys" and "On the origin of farm animals Livestock and synthetic living beings, especially Crops". The Gothic or Aztec religion has a very clear opinion on this.
In Fallout with FEV, evolution is understood as "Virus" and as "Forced")
So it seems like a YT fan film without any professionalism, to just let that happen in 1 or 2 sentences.
Cor. 1 MAY 2024 a las 12:42 p. m. 
The show makes more sense when you learn where in the timeline it takes place.

Its 9 years after FO4

Oh, and Gulpers are disgusting.
Última edición por Cor.; 1 MAY 2024 a las 12:43 p. m.
Q 2 MAY 2024 a las 3:55 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por totto:
I was on Prime again today and watched the show for the second time and for the first time in its entirety in English original.
And then I also watched "Batman 2 The Dark Knight 2008" for the first time and I saw into Lord of the Rings.

I skipped all of the violent scenes. They never interested me a second time.

The series is definitely mediocre in terms of craftsmanship. An official rating higher than 7 is completely unobjective and completely hysterical.

What I dislike the most in terms of craftsmanship:

1 the cut
The show has extremely quick cuts, and then no cuts at all for seconds. This is extremely stressful.

I also noticed how annoying the Prime Video browser was with "The Dark Knight" because I constantly wanted to pause and rewind.

2 ugly duckling doesn't become a swan
Individual actors are portrayed as less sympathetic than in real life, and others are portrayed as more likeable than in real life.
This is extremely irritating. Either all the actors are like this, or no one is like this.

Luckily the series avoided gothic genre, otherwise we would hear about the fate of an actor like Heath Ledger. if this story had better narrative design talent.

3 music
Music is way too in certain places. the same piece of music plays continuously for minutes.

Compared to "The Dark Knight", the music sometimes gives the impression of a cheap YouTube fan film.

4 I miss heavy weapons.
This scene in episode 8 where the power armor in the Vertibird is on the minigun, struck me as the most interesting action scene.
At this point I'm thinking of a cheap YouTube fan film, because a "power armor" made from papier-mâché can't carry a minigun like that. But the fact that the professionals don't depict it here as a gun carriage, remains the impression of cheap and unsatisfactory.

5 etc. Through characters like Moises Arias (Norm McLean) and Dave Register (Dave), i.e. the weak needy men (like the one currently in Germany who sued the Federal Constitutional Court or wiki/Tom_Kaulitz, etc.), the series seems 1 to 1 Reality copy and paste, as a YouTube fan film.
While "The Dark Knight" tells a concrete image of men, which is located in a parallel world, unknown to life experience, as escapism. With the Amazon Fallout Show you can now explain why the “Joker” is completely unrealistic, which I wouldn't have thought about without it.
Then there is the character "Barb Howard" who raises a huge topic, which is then just presented without purpose.
They should have cut that out and left it COMPLETELY for later, or told it properly.
(Reminder: There are these two thought buildings "On the origin of monkeys" and "On the origin of farm animals Livestock and synthetic living beings, especially Crops". The Gothic or Aztec religion has a very clear opinion on this.
In Fallout with FEV, evolution is understood as "Virus" and as "Forced")
So it seems like a YT fan film without any professionalism, to just let that happen in 1 or 2 sentences.

yeah honestly it feels like just massive fanservice with a weak plot and narrative as i mentioned before to me the goofy, silly humor is immersion breaking and the slo-mo fights are so overused and dumb. I think a 7 is a good score for the show, being generous of course cuz imdb and rottentomatoes are not reliable since they get paid to modify scores and delete bad reviews.
peon 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:05 p. m. 
Im on episode 5 and the obvious plot holes are driving me crazy.

Lucy freaking out about shady sands, "WHERES OUR RECLAMATION DAY",I dont know, proably waiting for the radiation to die off, which hasnt happened yet obviously. I dont know why a gulper has human fingers, maybe this is from f1 or f2 which admittedly is something I still have to play.

But the gd fridge. Has a hole that you can see through in the back.

And im expected to believe a kid survived a nuclear firestorm in it. Yeah, ok.

Just the little inconsistencies.

Also I seen someone ask somewhere why people think the power armor looks so cheap. Looks like its made from pvc, or weighs about it.

With the budget of this show, they coulda gotten a few of those exoskeletons from the army and welded some real metal to it im betting. Like when titus throws maximus his kneepad, looks like hes using no effort at all to hold it, lmao.

Its not a deal breaker, but its all these little things that add up and take me out of the story.

I also like how they make the brotherhood seem so weak.

Titus runs like a B#$@# from the yao gaui, the disciple they send maximus screams like a girl whenever hes even remotely scared. Just not what I imagine the brotherhood being like after playing f3,nv,f4.

If they had a random encounter where some nobody runs off screaming like a girl, I would find that hilarious. But the brotherhood of steel doesnt seem like a bunch of cowards to me.
Última edición por peon; 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:11 p. m.
Goblin King Jareth 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:13 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por alex010300:
Maximus just has a bi-polar disorder because deep down he assumes the BOS was the one that nuked Shady Sands his home back when he was a child and they still saved and look after him.

After the last episode, now that he know who is the real villains who nuked his childhood home and it's not the BOS. I expect he will finally be cured of that and be a BOS Zealot who will hunt down the villains who has access to nukes (Which the BOS will approve) that can harm the wastelands. Enclave vs BOS could happen next season.
No, he was a true believer, the kid from the refrigerator was happy to be rescued by knight in shining armor. He wouldn't have internalized that concept of the BoS if deep down he thought they nuked SS.

He's also having deep issues with the fascism of the BoS, which is clearly shown at his reluctancy in the last scene to take credit for the death of Moldaver when he should have been foaming at the mouth to take her out for glory without even listening to her last words.

He is the counterpoint character and the foil to them after all as well as demonstrating Lucy's ability to influence mistrustful wastelanders to grow. I believe the refrigerator scenes were meant to set up the audience to also believe BoS nuked Shady. You have to misdirect in order to break cliches properly, and you can't misdirect without an additional suspected villain, the BoS played this role for the crime of nuking Shady. Thaddeus was similarly a misdirection for the crime of who put the razor in Dane's boot.
Know Won 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:34 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por peon:
Im on episode 5 and the obvious plot holes are driving me crazy.

Lucy freaking out about shady sands, "WHERES OUR RECLAMATION DAY",I dont know, proably waiting for the radiation to die off, which hasnt happened yet obviously. I dont know why a gulper has human fingers, maybe this is from f1 or f2 which admittedly is something I still have to play.

But the gd fridge. Has a hole that you can see through in the back.

And im expected to believe a kid survived a nuclear firestorm in it. Yeah, ok.

Just the little inconsistencies.

Also I seen someone ask somewhere why people think the power armor looks so cheap. Looks like its made from pvc, or weighs about it.

With the budget of this show, they coulda gotten a few of those exoskeletons from the army and welded some real metal to it im betting. Like when titus throws maximus his kneepad, looks like hes using no effort at all to hold it, lmao.

Its not a deal breaker, but its all these little things that add up and take me out of the story.

I also like how they make the brotherhood seem so weak.

Titus runs like a B#$@# from the yao gaui, the disciple they send maximus screams like a girl whenever hes even remotely scared. Just not what I imagine the brotherhood being like after playing f3,nv,f4.

If they had a random encounter where some nobody runs off screaming like a girl, I would find that hilarious. But the brotherhood of steel doesnt seem like a bunch of cowards to me.
So it looks like the BoS have fallen on rough times. They are in decay. THEY EVEN SAY THAT IT IS THAT WAY AND THEY HATE IT. So many crying about issues that are explained and you missed somehow ... twice?
The yao gaui bites the rifle as he tries to fire it, and for maximus to end up with armor they wrote script where the knight acts like its his first day after stating 'I want to kill some ♥♥♥♥'.
It was ok for Indiana Jones but not for a kid that actually fits better in the fridge? Also it shows him exiting it and not being in the crater , so could be on edge of blast and inside a building at first.

What you call plot holes is you not paying attention it seems to me.
Última edición por Know Won; 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:36 p. m.
Q 2 MAY 2024 a las 4:55 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Know Won:
Publicado originalmente por peon:
Im on episode 5 and the obvious plot holes are driving me crazy.

....
So it looks like the BoS have fallen on rough times. They are in decay. THEY EVEN SAY THAT IT IS THAT WAY AND THEY HATE IT. So many crying about issues that are explained and you missed somehow ... twice?
The yao gaui bites the rifle as he tries to fire it, and for maximus to end up with armor they wrote script where the knight acts like its his first day after stating 'I want to kill some ♥♥♥♥'.
It was ok for Indiana Jones but not for a kid that actually fits better in the fridge? Also it shows him exiting it and not being in the crater , so could be on edge of blast and inside a building at first.

What you call plot holes is you not paying attention it seems to me.

who said it was Ok for indiana to hide in a fridge? NO ONE, ever, omg people criticized such silly dumb scene for so many years it was so goofy, actually fallout show did it better, i agree, a kid hidding in a fridge is more plausible.

BoS is trash, they are extremely diverse they dont look like a proper military force, they look weak.
alex010300 2 MAY 2024 a las 5:48 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Goblin King Jareth:
Publicado originalmente por alex010300:
Maximus just has a bi-polar disorder because deep down he assumes the BOS was the one that nuked Shady Sands his home back when he was a child and they still saved and look after him.

After the last episode, now that he know who is the real villains who nuked his childhood home and it's not the BOS. I expect he will finally be cured of that and be a BOS Zealot who will hunt down the villains who has access to nukes (Which the BOS will approve) that can harm the wastelands. Enclave vs BOS could happen next season.
No, he was a true believer, the kid from the refrigerator was happy to be rescued by knight in shining armor. He wouldn't have internalized that concept of the BoS if deep down he thought they nuked SS.

He's also having deep issues with the fascism of the BoS, which is clearly shown at his reluctancy in the last scene to take credit for the death of Moldaver when he should have been foaming at the mouth to take her out for glory without even listening to her last words.

He is the counterpoint character and the foil to them after all as well as demonstrating Lucy's ability to influence mistrustful wastelanders to grow. I believe the refrigerator scenes were meant to set up the audience to also believe BoS nuked Shady. You have to misdirect in order to break cliches properly, and you can't misdirect without an additional suspected villain, the BoS played this role for the crime of nuking Shady. Thaddeus was similarly a misdirection for the crime of who put the razor in Dane's boot.

Well deep down he always wonder if the BOS did nuked his home despite being fanatical outside. Now that is solved and he has no reason to go into a Vault anymore. He doesn't even feel guilty gunning down the NCR raiders.
Icedfate 2 MAY 2024 a las 11:57 p. m. 
i think the thing with Maximus is that he's not really Brotherhood material. He's shown to not being cut out for it from the start, when he's getting the crap beat out of him by his "comrades", and then he's in the classroom and he answers a question wrong and the teacher hits him in the face, you could see him clearly very angry and resentful over that.
and then he gets accused of hurting his best friend.

and yet somehow, he ends up becoming a hero among them, for all the wrong reasons

when he becomes the knight's squire, he's resentful because he wanted to be a knight and then the knight he's assigned to is a total ♥♥♥♥ and the knight is there in his full power suit sends him into the cave first and he's like "but i don't have armor , you do. ." and the knight tells him he has to "earn" his armor and then the knight sees the yao guai and was running from it as well. if the yao guai was beating a knight in power armor, what was he supposed to do?

yeah, he could have shot it, but he didn't for 2 reasons, i believe.
first is that he froze up in terror, because he's incompetent. .
but second, i think at that point, he was content to let it play out. He was fine letting that guy get killed, but then he came to his senses and killed the bear (that bear died really easy. . ), but then the knight rubs it in telling him how incompetent he is and how the BoS is gonna kill him for this, so he just is like "frig this, i aint got nuthin left to lose" and kills the knight and takes his armor. .


then he's out in the wasteland playing with the armor and causes collateral damages and then tries to play hero and lets the wrong guy get away

and he basically deserted the brotherhood. He has no allegiance to them.
he falls in love with Lucy and returns to the BoS with the wrong head, so she can finish her main questline.
i dunno what his plan was there, though, like what did he expect to happen?
they were about to kill him, when dane stands up for him and for some reason, the leader thinks he did a good job and promotes him. and then at the finale, he just gets knocked on his butt in the final fight, but then at the end, they see him there standing over the dead bodies and think he did it and praise him as a hero.


this guy is a master at failing upwards.

his SPECIAL stats, i dunno
like definitely low Int, LOW Per. maybe high luck, high Str, high End. .and he must have some Cha to have been able to talk himself out of situations.

i didn't like maximus, because he has a lot of negative traits, such as his disloyalty and his poor judgement, but i guess he also does have a sense of justice and tries to do the right thing. sometimes.
i think the writers were trying to give him character flaws to make him more relatable, but they gave him too many flaws.
Última edición por Icedfate; 2 MAY 2024 a las 11:58 p. m.
Icedfate 3 MAY 2024 a las 12:05 a. m. 
also, BoS is a bunch of disconnected chapters. some groups of BoS are a proper military force, but some are just small groups of people in power armor , just doing their own thing.

looks at the ones you meet in FO4. at they can barely defend themselves and there's only 4 of them(?) i forget how many are there and the Survivor(the player) comes up and helps them and then the BoS lets them join, just like that?

later, the Prydwen comes and you, the player get to meet a major chapter of them, but it's also revealed that there are other chapters of the brotherhood that have a different. . .interpretation of their mission.

the brotherhood are not an organized army. they are a bunch of clowns that found a lot of old world tech and decided that it was their job to find it all and keep it away from everyone else.
Última edición por Icedfate; 3 MAY 2024 a las 12:06 a. m.
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