Colter is actually insanely difficult

[Varanus]

Now I usually play on very hard or survival. And I always play a stealth build. Whether melee, pistol or sniper. he usually dies in a few shots.
Decided to try a heavy weapon/auto build for once. Playing on normal, because never played said build before. And Colter is annihilating me. I lose around half my health just shooting him with the water gun to make him vulnerable. Then almost no weapons do anything to him.
First time hes given me an actual fight. Been trying for 20 minutes. Havent beaten him yet. :O

Update: Beat him. Sprint up to him, VATS water gun. Sprint away, and spam grenades and molotovs. Which still took me a few attempts, as he was managing to expertly dodge most of my grenades. Honestly didnt expect non-stealth cheese to be THAT much more difficult. O_O

Edit: Definitely could have gone smoother, had I gone in more prepared. But I actually didnt expect him to be that difficult. A missile launcher or the cryolator probably would have made quick work of him. But I didnt think to bring those. Figured a minigun and assault rifle would get the job done. And they just couldnt. Had the striker too, as I figured crippling him would make it easier. But in all my attempts, it never broke his legs. The minigun was worthless against him. And the assault rifle was ok, but he was still doing more dps to me, than I was to him.

[Xenon The Noble]

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/12347
Make the version with the short twisty barrel (it's a machine gun). Convert it to fusion cores (500 rounds). Level up in commando skill (2x). I think the science skill increase it because it's an energy weapon. 5% bonus for the Alien blasters from the comic book at the Hubris comic book store, in the top floor bathroom/star dressing room.
it's the ACME disintegration ray used by Marvin the Martian. Kicks like a mule tho, so use short burst.
Or use FO4xedit and double the hit points for the base.
1 shot water, then this and behemoths, death claws, tank bots, BOS elders, and Colter are ashpiles.

Making it legendary is fun. Sometimes you just die because you're ambushed by a Supermutant that has one. And you may as well go in naked to take it from the Zetan, because it blows power armor away, and guess what, the Zetan has one.

[Chronocide]

Originally posted by Varanus:

Now I usually play on very hard or survival. And I always play a stealth build. Whether melee, pistol or sniper. he usually dies in a few shots.
Decided to try a heavy weapon/auto build for once. Playing on normal, because never played said build before. And Colter is annihilating me. I lose around half my health just shooting him with the water gun to make him vulnerable. Then almost no weapons do anything to him.
First time hes given me an actual fight. Been trying for 20 minutes. Havent beaten him yet. :O

Update: Beat him. Sprint up to him, VATS water gun. Sprint away, and spam grenades and molotovs. Which still took me a few attempts, as he was managing to expertly dodge most of my grenades. Honestly didnt expect non-stealth cheese to be THAT much more difficult. O_O

Edit: Definitely could have gone smoother, had I gone in more prepared. But I actually didnt expect him to be that difficult. A missile launcher or the cryolator probably would have made quick work of him. But I didnt think to bring those. Figured a minigun and assault rifle would get the job done. And they just couldnt. Had the striker too, as I figured crippling him would make it easier. But in all my attempts, it never broke his legs. The minigun was worthless against him. And the assault rifle was ok, but he was still doing more dps to me, than I was to him.

Hmm....guess this shows that stealth builds do have a weakness in this game.

I don't really stealth much, except as a means of detecting enemies. Charging from the front usually works in this game...

The main thing with colter is that you want to try to break each one of his armor sections, since PA with 0 health has no weight (game logic). Usually, by the time you get to colter, you really don't have the extra inventory weight for his armor...alternatively, if you are wearing PA, you can try to get him to break each of your PA sections, and then just wear his armor, since worn PA has no weight (game logic)

[Ch0Fak]

i used the squirt gun and a 4 barrel Rocket Launcher.....

[Alucard †]

When dealing with him on Survival i always spam Jet when fight starts.

Rush and squirt on him while jetted then unleash the pain from any high power or high dps weapon i have.

Jet ensures i have all the time in the world to deal damage before his plot armor reactivates. And that i don't get hit much by his gun.

And if you somehow lack supplies to deal with addiction and diseases from spamming Jet. There is market right outside with a doctor and you are in a safe zone after Colter fight so you can patch yourself up and take a breather.

Best thing about Jet is that it's effective regardless what combat build you are running ^^

It is basically Bullet Time / Sandevistan of Fallout 4 after all.

[Varanus]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

When dealing with him on Survival i always spam Jet when fight starts.

Yeah, i suppose jet would have helped. But in all my hours playing, I have never once used a chem. XD
Edit: I make them all the time. But I never use. :)

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Varanus:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

When dealing with him on Survival i always spam Jet when fight starts.

Yeah, i suppose jet would have helped. But in all my hours playing, I have never once used a chem. XD
Edit: I make them all the time. But I never use. :)

My characters are always chem addicts on Survival xD.

I use Jet and Psycho/Buff mixes aswell as Overdrive. Very often during "oh ♥♥♥♥" moments.
Where i otherwise would most likely not survive.

[Varanus]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by Varanus:

Yeah, i suppose jet would have helped. But in all my hours playing, I have never once used a chem. XD
Edit: I make them all the time. But I never use. :)

My characters are always chem addicts on Survival xD.

I use Jet and Psycho/Buff mixes aswell as Overdrive. Very often during "oh ♥♥♥♥" moments.
Where i otherwise would most likely not survive.

Honestly, I can imagine the SS coming out of the vault, looking around seeing a destroyed world. Walking to Concord, and fighting mole rats, several blood bugs, and then finally a deathclaw. And then finding a cache of chems, and just being like "Yeah. I think drugs is the answer to whatever the f@#$ all this is."

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Varanus:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

My characters are always chem addicts on Survival xD.

I use Jet and Psycho/Buff mixes aswell as Overdrive. Very often during "oh ♥♥♥♥" moments.
Where i otherwise would most likely not survive.

Honestly, I can imagine the SS coming out of the vault, looking around seeing a destroyed world. Walking to Concord, and fighting mole rats, several blood bugs, and then finally a deathclaw. And then finding a cache of chems, and just being like "Yeah. I think drugs is the answer to whatever the f@#$ all this is."

Yep. Doing the Mamma Murphy way.
Tho instead of "The Sight" we get other more combat ready "super powers" from getting stoned out of our gourds xD.

Who doesn't want to become Neo from Matrix from huffing concentraetd Brahmin dung.

[Zotliatlicor]

Problem starts when you limit yourself to certain weapons only runs. I always carry a wide range of guns (i play Carry all characters), and i never had any issue with him, an d i play Survival.

The cheese that always work also work on him. Kneecapper Auto Weapon. Wounding Weapon. Plasma Infused. Two-bullets. Nuka In the Face.

And i think he is actually harder on Very Hard than on Survival. Many of the Bullet Sponges are way thougher on VH.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Problem starts when you limit yourself to certain weapons only runs. I always carry a wide range of guns (i play Carry all characters), and i never had any issue with him, an d i play Survival.

The cheese that always work also work on him. Kneecapper Auto Weapon. Wounding Weapon. Plasma Infused. Two-bullets. Nuka In the Face.

And i think he is actually harder on Very Hard than on Survival. Many of the Bullet Sponges are way thougher on VH.

Once, when I was having difficulty with Colter due to visiting Nuka World at low levels, I hid in the doorway without properly entering the arena and slowly picked him apart from cover. Cheesy, but effective at the time.

It's harder to hit with the thirst zapper, but that just required persistence since you don't have to worry about it running out of water.

EDIT: Or maybe not that cheesy, since Colter's electric shield's hookup gives him an in-game reason for not leaving the arena.

[Xenon The Noble]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Problem starts when you limit yourself to certain weapons only runs. I always carry a wide range of guns (i play Carry all characters), and i never had any issue with him, an d i play Survival.

The cheese that always work also work on him. Kneecapper Auto Weapon. Wounding Weapon. Plasma Infused. Two-bullets. Nuka In the Face.

And i think he is actually harder on Very Hard than on Survival. Many of the Bullet Sponges are way thougher on VH.

Once, when I was having difficulty with Colter due to visiting Nuka World at low levels, I hid in the doorway without properly entering the arena and slowly picked him apart from cover. Cheesy, but effective at the time.

It's harder to hit with the thirst zapper, but that just required persistence since you don't have to worry about it running out of water.

EDIT: Or maybe not that cheesy, since Colter's electric shield's hookup gives him an in-game reason for not leaving the arena.

I thought Coulter was invulnerable until you squirted him, as a game mechanic? You mean to say that's not so or you squirted him from outside the arena doorway?

[Zotliatlicor]

No no, you need the Water squirter, but then you do regular damage with regular weapons in between.

[Varanus]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

No no, you need the Water squirter, but then you do regular damage with regular weapons in between.

You can also insta kill him with reverse pickpocketing. No squirt squirt needed. Super cheese method. But I wanted to fight him for real this time. :D

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Once, when I was having difficulty with Colter due to visiting Nuka World at low levels, I hid in the doorway without properly entering the arena and slowly picked him apart from cover. Cheesy, but effective at the time.

It's harder to hit with the thirst zapper, but that just required persistence since you don't have to worry about it running out of water.

EDIT: Or maybe not that cheesy, since Colter's electric shield's hookup gives him an in-game reason for not leaving the arena.

I thought Coulter was invulnerable until you squirted him, as a game mechanic? You mean to say that's not so or you squirted him from outside the arena doorway?

Actually both are true. In that case I used the thirst zapper even though hitting Colter from the doorway was more difficult.

But see below.

Originally posted by Varanus:

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

No no, you need the Water squirter, but then you do regular damage with regular weapons in between.

You can also insta kill him with reverse pickpocketing. No squirt squirt needed. Super cheese method. But I wanted to fight him for real this time. :D

It's also possible to kill Colter without using the thirst zapper by using VATS with critical hits.

I don't usually do it because it's slow going when most of your shots only help to generate a critical hit and deal no damage (even using Deliverer to help quickly bank a critical before swapping to a heavier weapon).

I've done it once or twice mostly to spit in the face of the restrictive story forcing me to accept Colter's help, even though the dialogue ignores the difference and assumes you used the thirst zapper.

[DrDrake]

Beating him was as easy as making coffee lol, unless you play on hardest difficulty possible....
Always played on Normal, that way every new area you visit will most likely spawn a 1-2 legendary enemies. (after seeing that table of % online somewhere which difficulty is better to play on)
ALSO: if you are level lower than required for NW, yeah, will be hard!

on normal, i killed him in under 5 seconds after using water gun to disable his "godmode" I believe it also depends on level. I was level 68 at the time, so i guess for me he was just another raider with pipe pistol.