Quests for Institute

[NeonX]

In my current run of FO4, in the long run I plan to stay allied to Minutemen and Railroad (so ig not BOS).
Currently I am doing the Molecular Level quest and have completed all pre-requisites (like Tradecraft) of all factions and am allied with all atm. So what and how should I interact with Institute once I teleport there to keep Minutemen and Railroad on my side?
Also any other questlines to do before I teleport to maintain this alliance?

[Bored Peon]

Well the main issue to do the Minuteman ending you need to be banned from the institute. Then Form Ranks starts.

The Railroad requires you to not get banned so they can go through with the plans (including making the BoS hostile), so the two kinda conflict.

All you need to do to please the Railroad is make sure to evacuate the Institute. It will not be the railroad ending, but they will still exist after the Minuteman ending.

[NeonX]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Well the main issue to do the Minuteman ending you need to be banned from the institute. Then Form Ranks starts.

The Railroad requires you to not get banned so they can go through with the plans (including making the BoS hostile), so the two kinda conflict.

All you need to do to please the Railroad is make sure to evacuate the Institute. It will not be the railroad ending, but they will still exist after the Minuteman ending.

What if I wait to finish railroads quests, then get banned and then start Form Ranks?

Also in Human Error in the compound there is a speech with Manny where I can say Institute should be wiped out. So if I do this before I teleport to Institute, it might be a problem right?

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by NeonX:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Well the main issue to do the Minuteman ending you need to be banned from the institute. Then Form Ranks starts.

The Railroad requires you to not get banned so they can go through with the plans (including making the BoS hostile), so the two kinda conflict.

All you need to do to please the Railroad is make sure to evacuate the Institute. It will not be the railroad ending, but they will still exist after the Minuteman ending.

What if I wait to finish railroads quests, then get banned and then start Form Ranks?

Well you can go as far as you want up the Railroad chain or not at all, it will make no difference with the Railroad as long as you evacuate the Institute.

As for Covenant, it has to be completed before the game endings, after an ending is done the quests stop working.

[NeonX]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by NeonX:

What if I wait to finish railroads quests, then get banned and then start Form Ranks?

Well you can go as far as you want up the Railroad chain or not at all, it will make no difference with the Railroad as long as you evacuate the Institute.

As for Covenant, it has to be completed before the game endings, after an ending is done the quests stop working.

When you say evacuate do you mean leave before starting any of their quests (basically not working for institute)?
Also are questlines of railroad/BOS stopped after i reach minutemen ending?

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by NeonX:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Well you can go as far as you want up the Railroad chain or not at all, it will make no difference with the Railroad as long as you evacuate the Institute.

As for Covenant, it has to be completed before the game endings, after an ending is done the quests stop working.

When you say evacuate do you mean leave before starting any of their quests (basically not working for institute)?
Also are questlines of railroad/BOS stopped after i reach minutemen ending?

If you complete one quest with a faction the other main quests of other factions will auto end.
So to get all endings make a hard save:
1. Institute before entering Mass Fusion building and starting the quest
2. Bos before speaking with Kells and starting Tactical thinking
3. Railroad before entering Mass Fusion building and starting the quest for the institute.
Then do any side content, any other DLC.
This way you will do everything you can without choosing a faction and you can see all endings very fast. Also get the maximum rewards from all factions without agro anyone.
And then decide your cannon ending factions , complete any achievements and then do Creation Club/Mods mods.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by NeonX:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Well you can go as far as you want up the Railroad chain or not at all, it will make no difference with the Railroad as long as you evacuate the Institute.

As for Covenant, it has to be completed before the game endings, after an ending is done the quests stop working.

When you say evacuate do you mean leave before starting any of their quests (basically not working for institute)?

Every faction blows the Institute up.

[Ffabbia]

Minutemen ending with Railroad spared. This is how I do it - though there are several other methods. Others may do things differently.

1) Do all Minutemen main quests up to Old Guns - you can go no further until later

2) Join the Railroad and do all quests up to Underground Undercover

3) Join BOS and do all quests up to Blind Betrayal. The next one they give you is Tactical Thinking where you're asked to destroy the Railroad, don't even start it, don't talk to Kells at all).

4) Use the Minutemen to build the Molecular Relay, go with the Institute quests up until The Battle of Bunker Hill.

5) Warn Desdemona about the battle, but not Elder Maxim. Shoot the Coarser as soon as you meet him, then just run to the synths and free them, do not engage with any BoS or Railroad fighters, take out only the turrets.

6) Return to Father on the roof, use the most negative/aggressive options when talking to him. He will banish you and the quest Banished from The Institute will occur. You will fail Underground Undercover at this stage if you still have it in your inventory, but that doesn't matter.

7) The Institute will attack The Castle, and you will get the quests Form Ranks and Defend The Castle. hopefully you have plenty of defences and missile towers set up to defend it.

8) Do The Nuclear Option with The MInutemen. Be certain to evacuate the civilians and free the synths using Father's terminal else the Railroad will go hostile and you'll pith off Preston Garvey.

9) After this the main mission will end. You'll still be friendly with The Brotherhood, if you wish to make an enemy of them go to Boston Airport and kill any named character.

10) You'll then get With Our Powers Combined from The MInutement where once again you defend The Castle, this time from the BoS.

[NeonX]

Originally posted by Ffabbia:

3) Join BOS and do all quests up to Blind Betrayal. The next one they give you is Tactical Thinking where you're asked to destroy the Railroad, don't even start it, don't talk to Kells at all).
4) Use the Minutemen to build the Molecular Relay, go with the Institute quests up until The Battle of Bunker Hill.

If I use Minutemen for Molecular in 4) I think I will only be able to do till BoS's From Within/Show No Mercy coz Blind Betrayal needs Outside the Wire which in turn needs me to ask BoS for help in Moelecular Relay

Originally posted by Ffabbia:

6) Return to Father on the roof, use the most negative/aggressive options when talking to him. He will banish you and the quest Banished from The Institute will occur. You will fail Underground Undercover at this stage if you still have it in your inventory, but that doesn't matter.

Also Sturges gave me a holotape before I went into the Molecular relay so that starts the Insider Job quest (Minutemen parallel for BoS's Outside the Wire?). Does that make the Insititute hostile or I can do that quest before getting banned from Institute?

[Ffabbia]

Using the holotape on an Institute terminal and handing it in to either Sturges or The BoS has no impact on your standing with The Institute. You can give the holo to Sturges, then talk to Elder Maxim who will request that you retrieve the holo for the BoS. Go back to Sturges, ask him for the holo, and then give it to the BoS. None of this impacts the Institute.

Not certain about your other question as I've only ever completed the game once with the BoS and I did things very differently as it was a 'pure Brotherhood' run where I stuck with them throughout..

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by NeonX:

Originally posted by Ffabbia:

3) Join BOS and do all quests up to Blind Betrayal. The next one they give you is Tactical Thinking where you're asked to destroy the Railroad, don't even start it, don't talk to Kells at all).
4) Use the Minutemen to build the Molecular Relay, go with the Institute quests up until The Battle of Bunker Hill.

If I use Minutemen for Molecular in 4) I think I will only be able to do till BoS's From Within/Show No Mercy coz Blind Betrayal needs Outside the Wire which in turn needs me to ask BoS for help in Moelecular Relay

Originally posted by Ffabbia:

6) Return to Father on the roof, use the most negative/aggressive options when talking to him. He will banish you and the quest Banished from The Institute will occur. You will fail Underground Undercover at this stage if you still have it in your inventory, but that doesn't matter.

Also Sturges gave me a holotape before I went into the Molecular relay so that starts the Insider Job quest (Minutemen parallel for BoS's Outside the Wire?). Does that make the Insititute hostile or I can do that quest before getting banned from Institute?

No you can do Blind Betrayal without building the teleporter with BOS.

[NeonX]

BoS and RR have their own versions for Sturge's holotape (I made Molecular relay with MM). So doing these quests after going to the institute once is no different from not doing those two? apart from of course progressing in respective questlines.

[=DeadShot=]

Nothing.