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fytogili May 14, 2023 @ 5:07am
KILL command doesnt work on NPCs
Whenever i target settlers or caravan guards and want them dead, i just type KILL in fallout new vegas and even in skyrim, but why the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ does it not work in fallout 4? all it does is knock them down on their asses and thats it. I want them DEAD, not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sitting flat on their asses and looking at me disappointed. Is there like a secondary console command that i need to use to force an NPC to not be essential anymore like in skyrim?


Also will i get penalised for killing caravans? Do they respawn? WIll any subsequent caravans i encounter be hostile towards me afterwards?
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Razer May 14, 2023 @ 5:23am 
Caravans are set as essential in Fallout 4. You want them dead you'll have to remove that flag. It was implemented after people had traveling salesmen die vs molerats and radroaches on the way from point A to point B in Fallout 3. Don't think they're part of any questing. At least not the traders that move around.

Why you want them dead though? Just curious.
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fytogili May 14, 2023 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by Razer:
Caravans are set as essential in Fallout 4. You want them dead you'll have to remove that flag. It was implemented after people had traveling salesmen die vs molerats and radroaches on the way from point A to point B in Fallout 3. Don't think they're part of any questing. At least not the traders that move around.

Why you want them dead though? Just curious.
Uuuuuuh because i want them dead? And i want their ♥♥♥♥?
Aoi Blue May 14, 2023 @ 7:04am 
An unusual number of characters are marked as essential in Fallout 4.
Razer May 14, 2023 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by fytogili:
Originally posted by Razer:
Caravans are set as essential in Fallout 4. You want them dead you'll have to remove that flag. It was implemented after people had traveling salesmen die vs molerats and radroaches on the way from point A to point B in Fallout 3. Don't think they're part of any questing. At least not the traders that move around.

Why you want them dead though? Just curious.
Uuuuuuh because i want them dead? And i want their ♥♥♥♥?
If you kill them you get nothing. Their invenory as vendors is only available if they are alive. You'll miss out on good stuff if you kill them. There is litterally no benefit to killing them. Unlessyou want to play as a maniac.
fytogili May 14, 2023 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Razer:
Originally posted by fytogili:
Uuuuuuh because i want them dead? And i want their ♥♥♥♥?
If you kill them you get nothing. Their invenory as vendors is only available if they are alive. You'll miss out on good stuff if you kill them. There is litterally no benefit to killing them. Unlessyou want to play as a maniac.
Did i stutter??
Razer May 14, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by fytogili:
Originally posted by Razer:
If you kill them you get nothing. Their invenory as vendors is only available if they are alive. You'll miss out on good stuff if you kill them. There is litterally no benefit to killing them. Unlessyou want to play as a maniac.
Did i stutter??
You said you wanted to kill them and get their stuff. But you can't have both.
Mr.Ullrich May 14, 2023 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by fytogili:
Originally posted by Razer:
If you kill them you get nothing. Their invenory as vendors is only available if they are alive. You'll miss out on good stuff if you kill them. There is litterally no benefit to killing them. Unlessyou want to play as a maniac.
Did i stutter??
There is no problem in understanding stuttering people. But you seem to have a problem to understand people :(
fytogili May 14, 2023 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by Razer:
Originally posted by fytogili:
Did i stutter??
You said you wanted to kill them and get their stuff. But you can't have both.
OBVIOUSLY you guys are talking about raiding the caravans' wares, but i was ACTUALLY referring to taking the gear the caravan guards are currently equipped with and i ♥♥♥♥ you not i still havent yet encountered a caravan merchant which means i cant raid their wares even if i want to. Anyway i want the caravan guards dead, because i wanna pile their gear. Like bruh so far ive hoarded over 100 .38 (9x29mmR) pipe pistols etc
Razer May 14, 2023 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by fytogili:
Originally posted by Razer:
You said you wanted to kill them and get their stuff. But you can't have both.
OBVIOUSLY you guys are talking about raiding the caravans' wares, but i was ACTUALLY referring to taking the gear the caravan guards are currently equipped with and i ♥♥♥♥ you not i still havent yet encountered a caravan merchant which means i cant raid their wares even if i want to. Anyway i want the caravan guards dead, because i wanna pile their gear. Like bruh so far ive hoarded over 100 .38 (9x29mmR) pipe pistols etc
Ok cool. Yea their equipment is totally worthless.
Zekiran May 14, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Why would you want that garbage? They're 'essential' they don't carry amazing gear in any way.

This game's NPCS are either protected or they're not, and since caravans are essential and SCRIPTED, you don't want to mess with their script. As far as I know, only their brahmin might be vulnerable, but they carry nothing but meat...
fytogili May 15, 2023 @ 12:31am 
1) Its not about the money. In fact it never WAS about money.

2) pokemon ruby, sapphire and emerald which came out back in 2002-2004 have stricter and better scripts than fallout 4 and that game came out in 2015.

3) Your reactions indicate that you guys are not hoarder extremists

4) If you think im bullshitting you, i encourage you to go to my profile<content<videos and look at my (2) skyrim and (1) fallout new vegas videos. Hell the new vegas one is my most recent video
Razer May 15, 2023 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by fytogili:
1) Its not about the money. In fact it never WAS about money.

2) pokemon ruby, sapphire and emerald which came out back in 2002-2004 have stricter and better scripts than fallout 4 and that game came out in 2015.

3) Your reactions indicate that you guys are not hoarder extremists

4) If you think im bullshitting you, i encourage you to go to my profile<content<videos and look at my (2) skyrim and (1) fallout new vegas videos. Hell the new vegas one is my most recent video
If you're a hoarder extremist, wouldn't it be better to buy out all their stock everytime you meet them? You get more stuff that way.

But ehm, good luck with those pipe pistols and .38 ammo mate. You do you. We don't judge. Well maybe a little.
fytogili May 15, 2023 @ 1:33am 
Originally posted by Razer:
Originally posted by fytogili:
1) Its not about the money. In fact it never WAS about money.

2) pokemon ruby, sapphire and emerald which came out back in 2002-2004 have stricter and better scripts than fallout 4 and that game came out in 2015.

3) Your reactions indicate that you guys are not hoarder extremists

4) If you think im bullshitting you, i encourage you to go to my profile<content<videos and look at my (2) skyrim and (1) fallout new vegas videos. Hell the new vegas one is my most recent video
If you're a hoarder extremist, wouldn't it be better to buy out all their stock everytime you meet them? You get more stuff that way.

But ehm, good luck with those pipe pistols and .38 ammo mate. You do you. We don't judge. Well maybe a little.
1) Bro i just said (10 hours ago) that i still havent encountered a single caravan merchant.. only caravan guards which not only does it make no sense, but if i cant encounter one, how am i gonna buy out their wares bro?

2) If you want, i can link you the hoard video when i finish fallout 4 lol
Razer May 15, 2023 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by fytogili:
Originally posted by Razer:
If you're a hoarder extremist, wouldn't it be better to buy out all their stock everytime you meet them? You get more stuff that way.

But ehm, good luck with those pipe pistols and .38 ammo mate. You do you. We don't judge. Well maybe a little.
1) Bro i just said (10 hours ago) that i still havent encountered a single caravan merchant.. only caravan guards which not only does it make no sense, but if i cant encounter one, how am i gonna buy out their wares bro?

2) If you want, i can link you the hoard video when i finish fallout 4 lol
There's Carla who travels alone. You can find her near Concord towards the Drumlin Diner. Then all Caravan's travel around. They visit certain settlements by default, but will all visit Bunker Hill. If you do Bunker Hill questlines and complete them you get the option to put a Caravan spot in your settlement and then Caravans will all travel there.
Zekiran May 15, 2023 @ 2:11am 
^^ Basically if you're "only seeing guards" then you aren't looking very hard for their caravan seller. The doc, the armorer, and cricket with her guns guns guns travel with guards. Carla doesn't. if you see "caravan guard" as an npc, look a little harder because they are guarding a caravan for a reason.
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