Urge large influencers to influence Bethesda

[NeoStormer]

After a hiatus, I had to uninstall Fallout 4 after again trying to play it. I explored every nook and cranny of the crash to desktop issue (CTD) across multiple PC configurations, over the years. (don't even bother suggesting a "solution")

This is very unfortunate, since I consider Fallout 4 the best RPG ever made, not story-wise but with all the integrated systems not remotely seen in any other game.

However, having a crash just in the first day of building in Sanctuary is a death sentence. And I just can't play any other mode other than survival, which should've been the only default.

But more importantly, is there any way we can convince Bethesda to start resolving this? To allot top engineers to solve the CTD issue?

Would large influencers be willing to do that? Please upvote this for obvious reasons.

At least if someone could contact Bethesda to elicit official response. Even if it is negative, I just want closure.

[PeaceMaker]

I hate to be the negative one, but the Devs that put this game together are long gone. The ones that exist now created Starfield... In other words they're just copy and pasting. They don't have a clue how FO4 really works any more.

On top of that, Bethesda does not have the love for their games they used to have. In many ways they are much like Ubisoft now, sadly. The art just no longer exists.

And I just can't play any other mode other than survival, which should've been the only default.

Bold words! I only play Survival, but many will fight you hard on that sentence!

[Lord Nighthawk]

Survival did not even exist on release and fallout was never a franchise about survival - it was an option since new vegas, nothing else.
I won´t fight over that as long as people keep a realistic view about things. Fallout 4 was the first in it´s line that releated very hard on the fighting factor and only kept the rpg as a flat side factor (very untypical for a fallout) so they had to do something to keep the game somehow interesting as only fighting gets boring over time. Around the time of release the first real survival games came out so they merged the idea of survival from fallout new vegas (the first that had that option) and the current game releases.

It´s ok to like survival if you want, it´s not ok to say that it should have been on by default. I need an option to save at any time hard integrated and not added by mods.

Additional PeaceMaker is right, nobody expects that bethesda will do anything with fallout 4 anymore, they did their nextgen patch so they have something ready for the fallout tv show and that´s it, the game is 10 years old. Else nobody will be capable to help you, the engine was always a bit weird depending on the hardware you use and the mods you install.

You can contact bethesda on your own if you feel the need for something official.

[trey]

Originally posted by NeoStormer:

To allot top engineers to solve the CTD issue?

they say "shoot for the moon" but damn...I guess in OP's defense they never said what galaxy the moon should be in.

[Nitemares]

Companies exist to make money.

Fallout 4 was a product of the 2015 business cycle.

Devoting assets to a 10 year old game that does NOT pull in measurable sales is not the way a company makes money.

Further, due to the constant popularity, AND an active modding scene Bethesda games player life spans are longer then a typical game, which makes a "Remaster" of their products an uphill battle as:

1: Remasters only sell roughly half the amount of the original, And this is for games with limited modding capacity nor active player numbers.

2: Disharmony among he player base over remasters due to the modding... In case you were not around or don't remember... the Skyrim SE release put a lot of shade on Bethesda - even if it was FREE for people that bought Skyrim... Why would they go through that again?


3: The vast majority of player problems today for Fallout 4, are player created problems. OR are hardware created problems. Player created problems are not Bethesda fault or wheel house. Hardware problems come from trying to run a 10 year old game on hardware multiple generations removed from the original specs.... And are not Bethesda's issue but the hardware makers for not including backward compatible architecture and instructions in their generational releases.






*****

Games age out of hardware profiles all the time. they cease functioning as intended as the coding breaks apart under the pressure of more advanced hardware and software... Its just the way it is...

My prediction is we have about 5 maybe 8 more years of Fallout 4 before running it on modern hardware will be impossible..... As the hardware and software instruction become more advanced and deviate from the fallout 4 requirements.




Hope Bethesda has fallout 5 out by then... and its good.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by NeoStormer:

I explored every nook and cranny of the crash to desktop issue (CTD) across multiple PC configurations, over the years. (don't even bother suggesting a "solution")

Have you tried downloading and installing all the oldest mods you can find, stuffing your PC case full of cat hair, and then setting it on fire? I'm pretty sure that won't help.

Originally posted by NeoStormer:

And I just can't play any other mode other than survival, which should've been the only default.

But right now you can't play any mode at all...

Originally posted by NeoStormer:

But more importantly, is there any way we can convince Bethesda to start resolving this? To allot top engineers to solve the CTD issue?

Try the thing with old mods, cat hair, and fire. It almost certainly won't work, but there's a very small chance you could luck into some kind of arcane ritual, especially if you add a scantily-clad priestess and some snakes of a species native to Maryland.

Along the lines Nightmares mentioned, if you want something with a better chance of working, very very large sums of money should do the trick. If it doesn't work, you're not using enough money.

[worm_master]

It seems to work just fine on my end, I have a decent amount of time, well over 1k hours, prob closer to 2k, and the CTD's u mention have been few and far between, in fact as far as anything go's I've had next to no issues with anything...

When they released he next gen patch, and I started fallout 4, it was running at almost 300 FPS, I have neither the High Fps fix nor the load time fix, and besides conversations running together it was perfectly stabe and playable, I currently have it restricted to 150 FPS and it runs like a champ...

[cswiger]

Originally posted by worm_master:

When they released he next gen patch, and I started fallout 4, it was running at almost 300 FPS, I have neither the High Fps fix nor the load time fix, and besides conversations running together it was perfectly stabe and playable, I currently have it restricted to 150 FPS and it runs like a champ...

Perfectly stable games normally allow the player to listen to the conversations.

Telling folks that you are willing to ignore obvious problems also strongly implies that you are willing to ignore less obvious issues as well.

[NeoStormer]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

I hate to be the negative one, but the Devs that put this game together are long gone. The ones that exist now created Starfield... In other words they're just copy and pasting. They don't have a clue how FO4 really works any more.

On top of that, Bethesda does not have the love for their games they used to have. In many ways they are much like Ubisoft now, sadly. The art just no longer exists.

And I just can't play any other mode other than survival, which should've been the only default.

Bold words! I only play Survival, but many will fight you hard on that sentence!

There is a very peculiar thing that happens to intuit when CTD will happen.
You sense a creeping lag in the game, not sure quite how to describe it.

Btw, I never used a single content mod, just the common physics/framerate fix and script extender. But even without a single mod, CTD happens.

[worm_master]

Wot sort of "less obvious", it seems that u cant get more obvious them CTD> How about you tell me what you consider less obvious? I am well aware of all the issues others report, I was simply stating "I have had little issues", I have no idea why u decided to make it a issue.

[NeoStormer]

Originally posted by Nitemares:

Hope Bethesda has fallout 5 out by then... and its good.

Oh god, judging by Starfield, can't even imagine how ultra-feminized, sanitized and anti-White a Fallout 5 game would be.

[cswiger]

Originally posted by worm_master:

Wot sort of "less obvious", it seems that u cant get more obvious them CTD> How about you tell me what you consider less obvious?

Scripting bugs resulting from the Papyrus engine not running at expected timing.
Cars blowing up randomly or killing the player who brushes by them.
Stuff falling through the floors because it spawned before the floors did.

I am well aware of all the issues others report, I was simply stating "I have had little issues", I have no idea why u decided to make it a issue.

And I have no idea why you keep talking about running FO4 at high FPS while experiencing obvious problems with conversations. Ignoring problems doesn't make them not exist.

[Nitemares]

Never ceases to amaze me how many people engage in self destructive behaviour online at their financial determent.

[Mister Cthulhu]

Originally posted by NeoStormer:

After a hiatus, I had to uninstall Fallout 4 after again trying to play it. I explored every nook and cranny of the crash to desktop issue (CTD) across multiple PC configurations, over the years. (don't even bother suggesting a "solution")

This is very unfortunate, since I consider Fallout 4 the best RPG ever made, not story-wise but with all the integrated systems not remotely seen in any other game.

However, having a crash just in the first day of building in Sanctuary is a death sentence. And I just can't play any other mode other than survival, which should've been the only default.

But more importantly, is there any way we can convince Bethesda to start resolving this? To allot top engineers to solve the CTD issue?

Would large influencers be willing to do that? Please upvote this for obvious reasons.

At least if someone could contact Bethesda to elicit official response. Even if it is negative, I just want closure.

Noob mistake building in Sanctuary, It's the head of the triangle of death along with Red Rocket Garage and Abernathy Farm. You're prone to crash in these spots when building.

[White Rabbit Alice]

ive actually never crashed in any of those three in my 500 hours in vanilla.....built all 3 up.

however, there is one place i dont even try building...its the blown up mansion where somehow the settlers always end up in the water, not the actual settlement, and stay there...cant remember its name,im gonna need to look that one up.

i think its Croup Manor

[MF]

Originally posted by Nitemares:

My prediction is we have about 5 maybe 8 more years of Fallout 4 before running it on modern hardware will be impossible..... As the hardware and software instruction become more advanced and deviate from the fallout 4 requirements.

Hope Bethesda has fallout 5 out by then... and its good.

Sounds like my laptop better last a helluva long time..............