How to update?? SOLVED

[ZombieDeenVT]

Hey, hope this doesn't come across as brain dead, but I have gotten back into the Fallout feeling so I did a wide purge and reinstalled mods. I downloaded all the mods that had newer versions however when I got to the new script extender, which was Fallout 4 runtime 1.10.984, the skse kept telling me the same thing.

"You are using Fallout version 1.10.163 which is out of date and incompatible with this version of F4SE. Please update to the newest version."

So naturally I go looking on the web on how to update my Fallout 4 to the newer version but everywhere I go it's either A, How to Downgrade my game. Or B, Select updates on steam. There are no updates to my Fallout 4 which makes me think I updated the game awhile ago and didn't remember.

Any help would be very greatly appreciated!!

S O L V E D

So I went with old fashioned brute force and I came across one mod that had to do with getting mods to work with older versions of Fallout 4. I turned that off and the game works now! Thank you to the people who helped.

[Nitemares]

One of two things is happening:

Either you are running a locked version of fallout 4 (locked to the 1.10.163 version). And missed the update in May 25 2024 that updated the game to 1.10.983/

OR

You're using MO2, the SAME install you used when you originally installed fallout 4 and mods... in which case, MO2 has a way to "bake in" the version of F4SE that was originally installed on it, and refuses to simply update it. -Even if you do a manual install of the correct version of f4se, M)2 uses an old copy..... There is a fix for this, I just don't know it as I don't use MO2 (it and me have issues).


The other option is you in fact did not grab the newest version (doubtful, if you got from Nexus, since its the very first link)

When you "Purged" did you:

!; Uninstall through Steam.
2: Navigate to your Steam install directory, locate the fallout 4 directory and MANUALLY DELETE it
3: Navigate to Documents\my games and DELETE the fallout 4 folder there?
4: restart computer
5: install Fallout 4 through steam.

Because if you missed steps 2 through 4.... Well... Steam uninstall only removes the files it puts there, NOT files from mods.... And it doesn't touch the Documents folder at all, leaving all the old scripts from your previous install -ESP f4se dependant mods!

So, you may want to do those steps, then SLOWLY install mods ONE AT A TIME. With f4se being the first mod you install.

[ZombieDeenVT]

Originally posted by Nitemares:

One of two things is happening:

Either you are running a locked version of fallout 4 (locked to the 1.10.163 version). And missed the update in May 25 2024 that updated the game to 1.10.983/

OR

You're using MO2, the SAME install you used when you originally installed fallout 4 and mods... in which case, MO2 has a way to "bake in" the version of F4SE that was originally installed on it, and refuses to simply update it. -Even if you do a manual install of the correct version of f4se, M)2 uses an old copy..... There is a fix for this, I just don't know it as I don't use MO2 (it and me have issues).


The other option is you in fact did not grab the newest version (doubtful, if you got from Nexus, since its the very first link)

When you "Purged" did you:

!; Uninstall through Steam.
2: Navigate to your Steam install directory, locate the fallout 4 directory and MANUALLY DELETE it
3: Navigate to Documents\my games and DELETE the fallout 4 folder there?
4: restart computer
5: install Fallout 4 through steam.

Because if you missed steps 2 through 4.... Well... Steam uninstall only removes the files it puts there, NOT files from mods.... And it doesn't touch the Documents folder at all, leaving all the old scripts from your previous install -ESP f4se dependant mods!

So, you may want to do those steps, then SLOWLY install mods ONE AT A TIME. With f4se being the first mod you install.

Hmm, I could try to re-validate the files. I did go back and get the old f4se and noticed
the main menu told me to update. Wonder if validating the files will fix some things. If that don't work I can just see about purging again and making sure to go through the steps to make doubly sure

[Zekiran]

Go to the Nexus and download the current version of F4SE from there manually. Follow its readme instructions. Don't rely on MO2 or Vortex to install it, as it might not be linking the correct version for your game.

[ZombieDeenVT]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Go to the Nexus and download the current version of F4SE from there manually. Follow its readme instructions. Don't rely on MO2 or Vortex to install it, as it might not be linking the correct version for your game.

Oh trust me, I didn't bother downloading it through Vortex. It's one of the few mods that I manually place in the files

[Zekiran]

so the question then is, are you trying to run FOLON or are you attempting to actually run the current version of the game with its added CC Enclave stuff? Also make sure that you're putting the right links where F4SE wants to look for the game. If you've got game files in different locations, it or you might be confused as the correct one. (I have several backups on different drives at this point so ... I always had to make sure of where I was looking)

[ZombieDeenVT]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

so the question then is, are you trying to run FOLON or are you attempting to actually run the current version of the game with its added CC Enclave stuff? Also make sure that you're putting the right links where F4SE wants to look for the game. If you've got game files in different locations, it or you might be confused as the correct one. (I have several backups on different drives at this point so ... I always had to make sure of where I was looking)

I am trying to run the game at its newest version. I made sure to put F4SE in the exact folders. Still told me I'm running an old version of Fallout 4. I actually checked the properties of the exe and surprisingly enough it IS the older version of Fallout 4. At this point I am reinstalling Fallout 4 in hopes of that fixing the problem.

[ZombieDeenVT]

Alright so edit: I reinstalled and thankfully Fallout is now up to date. Seems with one problem gone another one takes its place. Now when I launch the game the screen goes black then sends me back to my desktop. I'll be currently turning mods off and on to find a solution but so far I've verified the files and made absolute sure that mods are up to date.

[Nitemares]

Originally posted by ZombieDeenttv:

Alright so edit: I reinstalled and thankfully Fallout is now up to date. Seems with one problem gone another one takes its place. Now when I launch the game the screen goes black then sends me back to my desktop. I'll be currently turning mods off and on to find a solution but so far I've verified the files and made absolute sure that mods are up to date.

Ok!

We are getting some where!

On a side note: You probably locked your copy of fallout4 back when you were playing and modding, its a smart, common practice - But can lead to confusion when you stop playing for a while :P

First things first:
Make sure weapon debris is OFF in the settings. Thanks to a an architecture change AND instruction change by NVIDIA, Weapon Debris will crash a modern card now.

(That is a big one)

IF that does work, Sdack has a guide that is great to follow through and solves 90% of the issues. I will link it here when I find it myself.

[Nitemares]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3241230342

Here we are....
This is one of the best trouble shooting guides out there. Follow along with what he says and it solves about 90% of the issues people have, and is a great starting point.

After that has been tried, we can move on to more "interesting" bugs and fixes.

[ZombieDeenVT]

Originally posted by Nitemares:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3241230342

Here we are....
This is one of the best trouble shooting guides out there. Follow along with what he says and it solves about 90% of the issues people have, and is a great starting point.

After that has been tried, we can move on to more "interesting" bugs and fixes.

Hey, sorry, I found a solution. I just reinstalled the game and brute forced to find a mod that was causing trouble. Thanks anyway!