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is it possible to play this game without mods?
many suggested me to install the unofficial patch mods. i refused cause i don't want to bother and it will also disable achievement. then is this game perfect already? ​​or if forced to use mods, give me suggestions on what mods are useful for improving game stability and performance
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It's absolutely possible to play the game without mods. There are bugs and issues that mods fix, but it's certainly not unplayable without them. It's not an either/or "perfect already" vs "use mods" situation. Mods certain do make the game more fun and address some bugs and QoL issues. But they're not required.

Also, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15639 works for enabling mods. But you need the script extender installed to use it ( as with most mods. "F4SE", most recent version ). It is a bit of work to get mods set up, but Mod Organizer 2 does a good job of managing that and can quick launch the game with F4SE once it's installed. ( Bonus, that bypasses the Bathesda launcher )
Neo Jan 31 @ 2:57am 
Yes of course it's possible to play this game without mods. Many people do.

Many others prefer mods though. I would recommend the unofficial patch as a first step. If you want to take a look at the nexus for mods, I would also recommend setting "Endorsements" for the search, that way it will show you the mods that most people use and enjoy. The first 3 pages of mods will be some of the most important ones.
Lucus Jan 31 @ 3:09am 
I suggest you play through the game first without mods. you should only use bugfix mods during the first playthough of a game if they are required to get the game working.
Edit: agree with the above.

I have had very enjoyable play throughs both with and without mods. I started the game without mods, then started using mods, then felt like I had lost my bearings on what the game was “supposed to be” and went back to playing without mods for a LONG time. Now I play a mix - sometimes without any mods, sometimes with a few carefully selected mods, or an overhaul package.
Last edited by The Inept European; Jan 31 @ 4:35am
The bugs in the vanilla game are generally minor, and the workarounds are very well documented, so I would not be put off playing the game purely without mods. But playing with bug fix mods only (eg UFO4P) is also a good suggestion.
Originally posted by Ayase:
many suggested me to install the unofficial patch mods. i refused cause i don't want to bother and it will also disable achievement. then is this game perfect already? ​​or if forced to use mods, give me suggestions on what mods are useful for improving game stability and performance

It is not perfect, nothing is. But it's safe to run without any mod at all.

Mods aren't supposed to fix a game, just enhance it. Unfortunately that has become obfuscated over the years, especially with Bethesda's laziness, and some things do need fixing. I mostly have mods to remove silly `hand-holding`.

But you can still play without a mod.
Last edited by PeaceMaker; Jan 31 @ 5:30am
yes you can play the game in pure Vanilla.
None of the bugs that exist are game killers (unless you really lose the silicon lottery )

But looking back I wish I had at least a couple of basic mods in there to make my first playthrough, which IMO is the most important one, even more immersive:

"Atomic World" , which adds a lot of extra locations, well balanced, looks they were part of the vanilla game, I wish the game would have shipped like this because otherwise locations are a bit sparse.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28713

and
"Another pine tree mod". Fixes the too sparse vegetation of the vanilla game. In the absence of industrial logging for 200+ years the Commonwealth should be overrun with trees by now.
"A forest" is broadly similar, but even more dense.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/54027
Last edited by socialmediaaddress3; Jan 31 @ 8:58am
As you have said before @social, it’s a shame those two mods didn’t get bundled into NextGen.

(Though all extra content should always be optional!)
dbond1 Jan 31 @ 6:27am 
I've got 500+ hours in survival with zero mods used. Yes, it is possible.
Originally posted by The Inept European:
As you have said before @social, it’s a shame those two mods didn’t get bundled into NextGen.

(Though all extra content should always be optional!)

If that had been the case I probably would have been willing to update to .984. That and if they hadn't messed up the new 21:9 monitor settings in .984
Last edited by socialmediaaddress3; Jan 31 @ 8:57am
Ayase Jan 31 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by The Yeen Queen:
It's absolutely possible to play the game without mods. There are bugs and issues that mods fix, but it's certainly not unplayable without them. It's not an either/or "perfect already" vs "use mods" situation. Mods certain do make the game more fun and address some bugs and QoL issues. But they're not required.

Also, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15639 works for enabling mods. But you need the script extender installed to use it ( as with most mods. "F4SE", most recent version ). It is a bit of work to get mods set up, but Mod Organizer 2 does a good job of managing that and can quick launch the game with F4SE once it's installed. ( Bonus, that bypasses the Bathesda launcher )
so i need 3rd party too run game like mod organizer or others? i mean this mod cannot install manualy?
Ayase Jan 31 @ 9:09am 
and thank you for y'all for suggestion
i would consider using a mods, and if it doesn't require a 3rd party app then I would
Last edited by Ayase; Jan 31 @ 9:11am
Originally posted by Ayase:
Originally posted by The Yeen Queen:
It's absolutely possible to play the game without mods. There are bugs and issues that mods fix, but it's certainly not unplayable without them. It's not an either/or "perfect already" vs "use mods" situation. Mods certain do make the game more fun and address some bugs and QoL issues. But they're not required.

Also, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/15639 works for enabling mods. But you need the script extender installed to use it ( as with most mods. "F4SE", most recent version ). It is a bit of work to get mods set up, but Mod Organizer 2 does a good job of managing that and can quick launch the game with F4SE once it's installed. ( Bonus, that bypasses the Bathesda launcher )
so i need 3rd party too run game like mod organizer or others? i mean this mod cannot install manualy?

Yes you can install mods manually into the game files.
but we all recommend a mod organizer because for anyone but power users its easy to make a mistake .
I personally use Vortex, which may be downloaded here:
https://www.nexusmods.com/about/vortex/
Last edited by socialmediaaddress3; Jan 31 @ 9:14am
A lot of good mods can be installed from the in-game mod manager and run directly from the game.

The more complex mods like those that need F4SE need some kind of 3rd party launcher/manager.
Think of it like Skyrim, both are games you can 100% play without mods, but they're enjoyable games that have been around for a long period of time and thus people modify the game to get more playtime out of it.

You don't need mods, but after you beat the game you might consider another playthrough and at that point consider modding the game to customize your playthrough.
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