Fallout 4 is 10 years old this year

[Jissc300]

Fallout 4 is better than most games now. It’s truly in my opinion the last we see of Bethesdas good game making skills.

[Zotliatlicor]

Just realx. Fallout 2035 is sure to be good.

[Nitemares]

Looking at the numbers, you think there will be a Microsoft Gaming Division in 2030? Let alone 3035?

Every report I read says " no".... But things are changing...

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by Jissc300:

Fallout 4 is better than most games now. It’s truly in my opinion the last we see of Bethesdas good game making skills.

Correct. In fact most games of 10 years ago or more are way better than the `AAA` dross we have today. Eye-bleedin' graphics does not a good game make.

Only Asia (China for example) is making anything gamers actually want. I believe only they can give us a great sandbox Fallout/Skyrim CRPG - Only they can do a better job until Western Devs and companies are reformed.

[Fajita Jim]

It looks 20 years old.

[Azumgi]

[/quote] In fact most games of 10 years ago or more are way better than the `AAA` dross we have today. Eye-bleedin' graphics does not a good game make. [/quote]

I share these exact same sentiments. Most of the games I frequent were released before 2016. I have enjoyed newer AAA games but never stay long.

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Fajita Jim:

It looks 20 years old.

And runs like its 30 years old.

Every time I want to boot up a Bethesda game I'm imminently turned off by just how disgusting it feels without copious amounts of fan patches.

[PeaceMaker]

Originally posted by Schizm:

Originally posted by Fajita Jim:

It looks 20 years old.

And runs like its 30 years old.

Actually 30 year old games ran pretty damn well.

But you weren't around then were you?

[Schizm]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

Originally posted by Schizm:

And runs like its 30 years old.

Actually 30 year old games ran pretty damn well.

But you weren't around then were you?

I meant technical issues wise. It feels like im running a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DOS or windows 98 game with Bethesda titles some times.

[Jissc300]

The only Future Bethesda game im excited for is Elderscrolls 6. Other than that though im not looking forward to any other games wether that be TES from Bethesda or an Assasins creed game by Ubisoft, the broad range of games. None just look worthy of my time nor money. Im sorry but I’m not paying 100+ dollars to play a game with 2016 mechanics.

[Jissc300]

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Just realx. Fallout 2035 is sure to be good.

True brother we can have hope.

[Ceredh]

Times they are a changing. Shortly after Fallout 4's release nobody was allowed to call it a good game or an RPG without being attacked by the "real Fallout players". How simplified and dump it was. Rejecting some critisism while playing a game where the button to bash in melee is ingeniously the same as for throwing grenades was sometimes difficult.

And tastes differ. I only started to love Fallout 4 after I modded out many RPG stuff and made it more shooter-like (although I don't play normal shooters). I like(d) it more than Fallout 3 or New Vegas in the end, or any other RPG, it's my favorite game.

I'm quite interested what AI assisted game design can do in the future. Maybe there is hope even for Bethesda? (although after the experience with the DLC for Starfield I have my doubts)

[Xenon The Noble]

Games were a propaganda tool even when FO4 was made. It's gotten a lot worse. Bethesda had released a number of games since FO4, all flops. It wasn't some kind of random chance where all the game creators decided to push social propaganda, there was big money behind it, organizations like Sweet Baby Inc.
When DEI and woke go away, games might get better.

[Nitemares]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Games were a propaganda tool even when FO4 was made. It's gotten a lot worse. Bethesda had released a number of games since FO4, all flops. It wasn't some kind of random chance where all the game creators decided to push social propaganda, there was big money behind it, organizations like Sweet Baby Inc.
When DEI and woke go away, games might get better.

SBI are just leeches pushing their agenda, sucking up monies from developers looking for "creative input"....

The fact that "creative input" is NOT in the studio to start with is the problem.

As to the "big money" pushing the agenda, look no further than Blackrock Investments: One of the largest Investments houses in the world, and if you're a Union Guy, chances are they handle your Union's portfolio.... which gives you some push back if you can get your Union to push... which can be very hard as the Unions themselves have an Agenda issue that we are fighting from the inside as well....

(The D.E.I rot is everywhere)

[Inquerion]

Originally posted by Jissc300:

Originally posted by Zotliatlicor:

Just realx. Fallout 2035 is sure to be good.

True brother we can have hope.

If you want more Fallout and don't mind classic 2D Fallout, try Atom RPG and Atom Trudograd. Basically Fallout 2 set in Soviet Union.
Underrail is also good.

Sadly, not many alternatives for 3D Fallout.

Stalker series is a bit like Fallout and it's worth to play, but it's more like a action FPS game than proper RPG.
Also there is Chernobylite 1/2.

[Kiz]

Originally posted by PeaceMaker:

Originally posted by Jissc300:

Fallout 4 is better than most games now. It’s truly in my opinion the last we see of Bethesdas good game making skills.

Correct. In fact most games of 10 years ago or more are way better than the `AAA` dross we have today. Eye-bleedin' graphics does not a good game make.

Only Asia (China for example) is making anything gamers actually want. I believe only they can give us a great sandbox Fallout/Skyrim CRPG - Only they can do a better job until Western Devs and companies are reformed.

Name three chinese games that are good.,