Port older fallout games to mobile?

[ypuuh]

This will mostly be focused on New Vegas (because its the best game). Wouldn't it make sense to port most of the older Fallout games to mobile devices. Most modern smartphones have 4GB of ram, and New Vegas requires only 2, so that's double it's requirements. The 2 most obvious concerns of this would be storage and controls. Let's cover storage first: my iPhone has 128GB of storage (it's an iPhone 12 model with more storage) And I researched it, and most phones have about 30-something GB of space. Even though some phones have only 16, it still would be fine if a FEW people couldn't play it, because if they wanna play it they most likely already have it on a console or pc/laptop. The reason why most games can't be ported to mobile is because of the graphics, but the older fallout games are so old that they do not require a graphics card to run at ultra, like my laptop does not have a graphic card, and it runs perfectly fine (except some lagging and crashing here and there, but that happens with everyone who plays NV). Porting keyboard and controller controls to a small screen would be a little challenging, I'm sure Bethesda could figure something out. Even if Bethesda screws this up, it won't be much of an issue since the game is already on tons of different devices. Also, you could just connect a Bluetooth keyboard, or an Xbox controller. I'm sure there's probably some weird thing with electronic components that I don't understand, but wouldn't this work?

[UCEY]

It MIGHT be possible, but they'll require a ton of modification to function properly

[Zekiran]

No, since they're pc games.

Mobile game? There is one. Fallout Shelter. Have fun.

The fact that you say " older fallout games are so old that they do not require a graphics card to run at ultra,"

.... Ultra has nothing to do with it. The capability of phones to play a game in 3d like Fallout New Vegas would be. ... yeah, not happening. Storage space doesn't mean a thing - ram doesn't mean a thing. Without a proper video card, the game would literally look like the first iterations of Doom. And run about as fast, too.

Also who would buy this? No one. The mobile phone market doesn't need a well-established PC game on it, they have pcs already.

[felmari]

possible technologically.

i have played some games where you have large environments and options like ark on a phone it is not the best experience though. on a pad maybe but still controls on screen even if done well sucks. perhaps your more dedicated mobile gaming systems for these kinds of games.

[OpenSheep]

u probably would have better results with staem deck

[tridelta]

FO 1 & 2 would be your best bet. They have good stories and would be easy to control with touch screen.

[Zekiran]

Originally posted by tridelta:

FO 1 & 2 would be your best bet. They have good stories and would be easy to control with touch screen.

This would be my best guess too.

But there are already ports of those games being made TO the fo4 engine and they look amazing, so... I mean, the iso thing is cute, not my choice of play, and those original ones would still need mega amounts of conversion to even not have the bugs they do on pc.

Nothin's simple, particularly moving something from an unrelated file type or operating system to another. controls and UI are their own unique disaster area (witness the Valve comments in code that assert how much they hated doing it, and how they hoped it sucked so bad they never had to touch UI code again?). either way I'd far rather bring the older games up to PC playable standards than a phone. I have never understood the idea of playing a game that requires reading, detailed visual information, directional sound cues, and the like, to be played on a 3" screen.

[Kakashi Okazaki]

Depends a lot on the chip as integrated graphics could run a game like NV however the OS structure for IoS and windows quite different. So you can MAYBE port it or attempt to emulate it but emulating it would require more resources than your phone has and really any phone for the next 4 or 5 years if the current pace of chip tech keeps up. But even if you could get it to run through fully converting/porting the game its very possible the phone would overheat quickly and use far too much power thus making the experience poor. Add on sales figures not being that great and honestly why would anyone bother?

Simply having 6 gigs of ram and a cpu with 4 cores doesn't mean you can instantly run something and its why emulation development is such a long process.

[Zekiran]

I mean yeah you can run Doom on a potato with an LED display but. that's beside the point ;)

[Izlude]

Originally posted by ypuuh:

This will mostly be focused on New Vegas (because its the best game). Wouldn't it make sense to port most of the older Fallout games to mobile devices. Most modern smartphones have 4GB of ram, and New Vegas requires only 2, so that's double it's requirements. The 2 most obvious concerns of this would be storage and controls. Let's cover storage first: my iPhone has 128GB of storage (it's an iPhone 12 model with more storage) And I researched it, and most phones have about 30-something GB of space. Even though some phones have only 16, it still would be fine if a FEW people couldn't play it, because if they wanna play it they most likely already have it on a console or pc/laptop. The reason why most games can't be ported to mobile is because of the graphics, but the older fallout games are so old that they do not require a graphics card to run at ultra, like my laptop does not have a graphic card, and it runs perfectly fine (except some lagging and crashing here and there, but that happens with everyone who plays NV). Porting keyboard and controller controls to a small screen would be a little challenging, I'm sure Bethesda could figure something out. Even if Bethesda screws this up, it won't be much of an issue since the game is already on tons of different devices. Also, you could just connect a Bluetooth keyboard, or an Xbox controller. I'm sure there's probably some weird thing with electronic components that I don't understand, but wouldn't this work?

Just play fnv on an old comp. Anything made after 2008 as a cheap laptop can run it at 30fps with mods

[Yhwach]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

No, since they're pc games.

Mobile game? There is one. Fallout Shelter. Have fun.

The fact that you say " older fallout games are so old that they do not require a graphics card to run at ultra,"

.... Ultra has nothing to do with it. The capability of phones to play a game in 3d like Fallout New Vegas would be. ... yeah, not happening. Storage space doesn't mean a thing - ram doesn't mean a thing. Without a proper video card, the game would literally look like the first iterations of Doom. And run about as fast, too.

Also who would buy this? No one. The mobile phone market doesn't need a well-established PC game on it, they have pcs already.

The games are old enough and don't require many resources to where the nintendo switch could run it competently, but with the specs that phones have now it's entirely possible if there's a mobile exclusive port.
People, quite a few really, have been running the older fallout games without a dedicated graphics card for quite some time to drive the point home.

But should it happen? No hurry there.
Would it be nice? Sure.

[Zes]

Porting = recoding for a new platform.

It requires funding. If original creator has no will or time or resources to spend on it then another company should do it.

But this will raise the copyright issues. Even though they don't (ofc) claim the ownership of it, it still gives them a huge profit. And requires proper contracts and payment agreements.

Emulation, could be an easier solution, it almost doesnt need recoding and wont raise any copyright issues.. an easy solution on the spot..

thing is emulation is a big thing. people wont bother to code an emulator for just one game. a Pc > android emulator is a big project. an emulator should work on a "higher" end. In this case it is Pc.. not android. And there are already android > pc emulators available. I'm not even sure if this is even possible.

[Zekiran]

Also involved for any kind of mobile platform is:

the distributor on those platforms takes a MASSIVE chunk of money for doing so, and... you can bet that they don't want to hand over any of that cash.