BoS Uniform underneath Power Armor mods?

[Human`Mankind]

Hello everyone, I was wondering if there's a mod out there which prevents you from being able to use your power armor unless you put on Brotherhood's uniform/Recon armor first. You can see some characters (Like Paladin Danse from fo4 as well as Paladin Vargas in fo3) wear it that way and it would be nice if I'd be able to wear it that way myself
Thanks in advance!

[Zekiran]

Unsurprisingly there are.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58921

[Human`Mankind]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

Unsurprisingly there are.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/58921

Sup. I don't see in this mod a requirement to wear a BoS uniform for Power Armor

[Zekiran]

There likely isn't because that's an incredibly niche roleplay thing that you can do all by yourself. The immersion of that mod though seems to be pretty in keeping with prior games 'train and use' methods for the power armor.

[Immortalis]

What you want might be better achieved by the simple use of self-restraint.

Make your own rule (for example, no changing armour outside your settlements) and then follow it.

[MagicMarker]

I think this is not something that should be forced by any means. If this only applied to the player's character and his/her companion(s), but NOT to their adversaries, this would be unfair.
Otherwise, if one could ONLY wear/use PA when wearing a BoS uniform, this rule should also apply to Gunners and Raiders, who NEVER wear those uniforms.

I'm not sure if one could force all adversaries to do without PA, nor if it would be fair to do so. If you want to role-play that it's a requirement to wear a uniform, you're free to just wear a uniform.

Besides, I see a problem with this. How is a starting character to use the PA they find at the museum, as long as they don't find a uniform first? They're not supposed to encounter any BoS soldiers for a while yet!

[Zekiran]

I mean, I swipe all the uniforms off of BoS that I kill and put them on specific settlers or in locations and kinda pretend they're defectors or prisoners doing the labor... >_> Imagine being a grunt having to wear their big bulky field gear and *planting crops all day*.

[MagicMarker]

Originally posted by Zekiran:

I mean, I swipe all the uniforms off of BoS that I kill and put them on specific settlers or in locations and kinda pretend they're defectors or prisoners doing the labor... >_> Imagine being a grunt having to wear their big bulky field gear and *planting crops all day*.

I make it a sport to disable as many BoS soldiers as I can. And yes, I swipe their uniforms and everything else as well, where possible. But I'm not putting all my settlers in these uniforms... that would look so boring!

[DouglasGrave]

In a certain sense, a clothing limitation is already enforced on power armour use in the way that other clothing effects are disabled while you're wearing power armour.

It's as if you had to open your inventory and doff all your bulky clothes when getting in, and only don them again when you get out. It effectively just happens automatically.

[MagicMarker]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

In a certain sense, a clothing limitation is already enforced on power armour use in the way that other clothing effects are disabled while you're wearing power armour.

It's as if you had to open your inventory and doff all your bulky clothes when getting in, and only don them again when you get out. It effectively just happens automatically.

It is certainly true that wearing PA negates the benefits of any other armor you might be wearing. But that's true whether you wear a BoS Uniform under it or not. The uniform merely replaces normal clothing like rags, suits, dresses and the likes.

Making the uniform a requirement does make it impossible to wear PA as long as you haven't nicked the uniform off of any BoS soldiers, though.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by BoilingOil:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

In a certain sense, a clothing limitation is already enforced on power armour use in the way that other clothing effects are disabled while you're wearing power armour.

It's as if you had to open your inventory and doff all your bulky clothes when getting in, and only don them again when you get out. It effectively just happens automatically.

It is certainly true that wearing PA negates the benefits of any other armor you might be wearing. But that's true whether you wear a BoS Uniform under it or not. The uniform merely replaces normal clothing like rags, suits, dresses and the likes.

Making the uniform a requirement does make it impossible to wear PA as long as you haven't nicked the uniform off of any BoS soldiers, though.

I agree it's different. The current arrangement is more like a limitation (i.e. you can't gain both benefits at once) than a requirement. My point is more that when it comes to the overall benefit, there's not a very big difference in the protection you'd have anyway.

Personally, I feel like a restriction on what you can fit under power armour makes more sense than requiring a specific suit, especially when no-one except the Brotherhood needs it. If you start requiring the suit, then you have to ask how people like raiders and Gunners use power armour.

You could make the requirement specific to T-60, but that still seems weird when the power armour frame is exactly the same.

[MagicMarker]

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

I agree it's different. The current arrangement is more like a limitation (i.e. you can't gain both benefits at once) than a requirement. My point is more that when it comes to the overall benefit, there's not a very big difference in the protection you'd have anyway.

Exactly.

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Personally, I feel like a restriction on what you can fit under power armour makes more sense than requiring a specific suit, especially when no-one except the Brotherhood needs it.

That's something I can get behind. Leather armors might fit fine under PA. And perhaps. basic and sturdy Combat armor as well. But the heavy Combat armor, and the clunky metal, raider and robot armors ought to get in the way of using PA. But allowing some armors but not others under PA would be too complicated and hard to justify. It would indeed be better to say it's one or the other.

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

If you start requiring the suit, then you have to ask how people like raiders and Gunners use power armour.

Which is what I said in my first post on the subject. They cannot use PA, if its use is restricted to those wearing a specific uniform that they never use. It would be ridiculous.

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

You could make the requirement specific to T-60, but that still seems weird when the power armour frame is exactly the same.

Yup. That would actually be even weirder, if you ask me.

[DouglasGrave]

Originally posted by BoilingOil:

Originally posted by DouglasGrave:

Personally, I feel like a restriction on what you can fit under power armour makes more sense than requiring a specific suit, especially when no-one except the Brotherhood needs it.

That's something I can get behind. Leather armors might fit fine under PA. And perhaps. basic and sturdy Combat armor as well. But the heavy Combat armor, and the clunky metal, raider and robot armors ought to get in the way of using PA. But allowing some armors but not others under PA would be too complicated and hard to justify. It would indeed be better to say it's one or the other.

I wasn't thinking even armour, just the thinnest and lightest clothes similar to the BOS uniform. The ones that you could conceivably have on inside a power armour frame, like the vault suit, marine wetsuit, or Gunner harness.

I'd just say just outfits you can already wear under regular armour, but there are some weird armour conflicts with those like Nuka World's fancy suits allowing full armour while skimpy summer shorts block still prevent the use of chest pieces.

But both restrictions and limitations are undercut by the inventory system allowing you to instantly change clothes while unequipped items effectively cease to exist. Even if you required specifically a BOS uniform, all it would be is a minor weight/inconvenience tax on using power armour that you carry around in your inventory.