Bethesda releases a Fallout Monopoly board, where is New Vegas?

[Lord Tony]

Bethesda releases an official Monopoly board. They say it has locations from all 4 games. You may be thinking the current games right? Fallout 1, 2, 3 and new vegas? NOPE!

Fallout 1, 2, 3 and 4. This makes no sense why is there no mention of New Vegas? Especially when New Vegas is directly tied to Fallout 1 and 2.

[Lord Tony]

引用自 Twenty One：

引用自 Lord Tony：

Bethesda releases an official Monopoly board. They say it has locations from all 4 games. You may be thinking the current games right? Fallout 1, 2, 3 and new vegas? NOPE!

Fallout 1, 2, 3 and 4. This makes no sense why is there no mention of New Vegas? Especially when New Vegas is directly tied to Fallout 1 and 2.

becuase new vegas was a fail

It out performed Fallout 3, so explain your reasoning.

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Kind of reminds me of when Sakamoto got super upset at Metroid Prime's success and popularity and said they weren't canon anymore before Other M came out.

[Mr.Hmm]

引用自 Morrandir：

引用自 Lord Tony：

Bethesda releases an official Monopoly board. They say it has locations from all 4 games. You may be thinking the current games right? Fallout 1, 2, 3 and new vegas? NOPE!

Fallout 1, 2, 3 and 4. This makes no sense why is there no mention of New Vegas? Especially when New Vegas is directly tied to Fallout 1 and 2.

I am assuming you are talking about Bethesda Softworks, as you obviously would not be thinking that Bethesda Game Studios is making a board game.

Zenimax Media obviously owns everything made by Bethesda Game Studios, and when they bought the IP rights to fallout from Interplay they bought everything related to Fallout that was priorly owned by Interplay, which covers Fallout assets created by Interplay itself and their then subsidiary developer Black Isle Studios.

Fallout New Vegas was made by Obsidian, a third party developer, I do not know the details of the agreement between Obsidian the developer, and Bethesda Softworks the publisher but I am predicting that creative content exclusively made by Obsidian for Fallout New Vegas, such as unique locations, characters and creatures that were not priorly made by any other developer for the Fallout series would entitle the permission of Obsidian to be used in any game not made by them.

Likewise there is no mention of the use of any unique assets produced by Micro Forté which was a third party developer contracted by Interplay to make Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel.

Of course this is my reasoning as to why Fallout New Vegas unique assets, as well as Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel unique assets are not being used in the game, but if the reasoning is that "Bethesda hates Obsidian" sounds more logical to you, despite the fact that Bethesda Softworks not using assets it has presumably paid for (which would have to be the case for that line of logic to make any sense whatsoever) out of mere spite due to the fact that their subsidiary developer Bethesda Game Studios did not make the game does not fit into any form of logical behaviour of any corporate entity, while in contradiction assets from Interplay and Black Isle have been used, then you are obviously free to continue to believe so, but I personally would advise you to think again as that reasoning does seem pretty unrealistic.

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[Lord Tony]

I'm aware that the board is only including the "main" games. Just because New Vegas is technically declared as a "spin off" doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

New Vegas is basically the original intended Fallout 3.

[Zeno]

引用自 Lord Tony：

引用自 ^2NinetyL：

Um... Well, they didn't include Tactics or BoS, either. Maybe Bethesda just included the games in the main series and not side games. I think interpreting this as a knock on Obsidian would be a bit much.

Fallout 3 technically isn't a sequel though. Just what bethesda considers as a sequel in their eyes.

It's called "Fallout 3." It doesn't really have to be a sequel, per se, just an entry in the "main" game series. In other words, it's a title with a number after it.

引用自 Lord Tony：

I'm aware that the board is only including the "main" games. Just because New Vegas is technically declared as a "spin off" doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

Well, sure, but at this point, we're debating what should be on the board rather than determining why New Vegas was excluded. If New Vegas were included, then maybe BoS and Tactics should have been as well, as all of them are technically spinoffs.

Could we just go even and say that it's just the result of Bethesda deciding to represent the games in the main series and nothing more? I genuinely don't think they were trying to slight Obsidian or imply that New Vegas was bad or anything. And to be clear here, I vastly prefer New Vegas over Fallout 3 and would not be considered by most to be a "Bethesda fanboy" or anything.

[Lord Tony]

You go on their store website everything is either fallout 3 or fallout 4. Very few New Vegas merchandise, only a few NCR shirts.



They probably could have sold a ♥♥♥♥ ton of snowglobes during christmas time but they prefer Fallout 3 bobbleheads.

I have no doubt poseiden energy would have sold just as much as Red Rocket shirts.

They choose not to include these for some reason. The market is there, everyone would love a Yesman shirt.

[Looming Dementia]

引用自 ers101284：

New Vegas was not made by Bethesda and was more of a spin off and than part of the series. Like Fallout Tactics or Fallout Brotherhood of Steel.

Could be a licensing issue, too. They acquired the IP to 1 and 2, I think, when they started on 3. I'm not so sure about New Vegas, which was developed by Obsidian. Yes, Bethesda still produced it, but IP licensing can still be kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, sometimes.

Who knows what happened behind the scenes.

[Looming Dementia]

引用自 Lord Tony：

I'm aware that the board is only including the "main" games. Just because New Vegas is technically declared as a "spin off" doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

New Vegas is basically the original intended Fallout 3.

I think you're confusing that wih Van Buren. They included some elements of Van Buren in New Vegas, but it's a different story. The events of Van Buren were what happened before New Vegas: the Battle at Helios One, between the Brotherhood and the NCR, the first battle at Hoover Dam, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_(video_game)

[Looming Dementia]

引用自 Lord Tony：

You go on their store website everything is either fallout 3 or fallout 4. Very few New Vegas merchandise, only a few NCR shirts.

They probably could have sold a ♥♥♥♥ ton of snowglobes during christmas time but they prefer Fallout 3 bobbleheads.

I have no doubt poseiden energy would have sold just as much as Red Rocket shirts.

They choose not to include these for some reason. The market is there, everyone would love a Yesman shirt.

Again, IP licensing rights can be a ♥♥♥♥♥, sometimes.

[Zeno]

引用自 Lord Tony：

You go on their store website everything is either fallout 3 or fallout 4. Very few New Vegas merchandise, only a few NCR shirts.



They probably could have sold a ♥♥♥♥ ton of snowglobes during christmas time but they prefer Fallout 3 bobbleheads.

I have no doubt poseiden energy would have sold just as much as Red Rocket shirts.

They choose not to include these for some reason. The market is there, everyone would love a Yesman shirt.

Um... actually, the lion's share of stuff on the site is directly related to Fallout 4 or is just related to Fallout stuff in general. We're looking at the same page, right?
http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout.html?gclid=CJjRq5-QgcgCFYNFaQodrosMkA&gclsrc=aw.ds&limit=all

I only see four items which are directly related to Fallout 3 (five if you count the BoS shirt with FO3's cover on it, but I'd say that it could just represent the BoS in general):
http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/pop-vinyl-male-lone-wanderer.html
http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/pop-vinyl-female-lone-wanderer.html
http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/tranquility-lane-vault-boy-watch.html
http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/fallout/goat-tshirt.html

Red Rocket is also in Fallout 4, so I wouldn't count it as being a purely Fallout 3 thing. As for the snowglobes, don't know why they didn't include those.

But all that aside, honestly, shouldn't Obsidian be selling New Vegas stuff, not Bethesda?

引用自 Looming Dementia：

引用自 ers101284：

New Vegas was not made by Bethesda and was more of a spin off and than part of the series. Like Fallout Tactics or Fallout Brotherhood of Steel.

Could be a licensing issue, too. They acquired the IP to 1 and 2, I think, when they started on 3. I'm not so sure about New Vegas, which was developed by Obsidian. Yes, Bethesda still produced it, but IP licensing can still be kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up, sometimes.

Who knows what happened behind the scenes.

This is a good point as well.

[Brandybuck]

引用自 Lord Tony：

Also the fact is Fallout 3 is a spin-off. Story wise Fallout 3 has absolutely nothing to do with Fallout 2, it's not even in the same geographical location.

NOT ON WEST COAST IS FAKE FALLOUT BREAKS LORE!

[Looming Dementia]

引用自 Brandybuck：

引用自 Lord Tony：

Also the fact is Fallout 3 is a spin-off. Story wise Fallout 3 has absolutely nothing to do with Fallout 2, it's not even in the same geographical location.

NOT ON WEST COAST IS FAKE FALLOUT BREAKS LORE!

Because everyone east of the Mississippi got hit by atomic bombs and died!

Wait, didn't that also happen on ...

[Incunabulum]

引用自 Ish：

引用自 ers101284：

New Vegas was not made by Bethesda and was more of a spin off and than part of the series. Like Fallout Tactics or Fallout Brotherhood of Steel.

Don't let the people from the New Vegas board see you saying that. They'll debate with you for hours about how you have it backwards.

No we won't.

We fully understand that FNV is a spinoff. We'll just argue (correctly) that FNV is both the superior game and that it *should* have been what Bethesda did for the sequel rather than FO3.

[Looming Dementia]

引用自 Incunabulum：

引用自 Ish：

Don't let the people from the New Vegas board see you saying that. They'll debate with you for hours about how you have it backwards.

No we won't.

We fully understand that FNV is a spinoff. We'll just argue (correctly) that FNV is both the superior game and that it *should* have been what Bethesda did for the sequel rather than FO3.

IP license issues, you know? Bethesda was probably able to buy the IP to 1 and 2, but not Van Buren.

Storyline, though ... yeah, right there with you.

[Lord Tony]

引用自 Looming Dementia：

引用自 Lord Tony：

I'm aware that the board is only including the "main" games. Just because New Vegas is technically declared as a "spin off" doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

New Vegas is basically the original intended Fallout 3.

I think you're confusing that wih Van Buren. They included some elements of Van Buren in New Vegas, but it's a different story. The events of Van Buren were what happened before New Vegas: the Battle at Helios One, between the Brotherhood and the NCR, the first battle at Hoover Dam, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_(video_game)

I wasn't "confusing" with Van Buren I was talking about Van Buren.