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Fallout 4 crashing upon loading save game
Hello! So to preface, yes I have downgraded my version of Fallout 4 successfully and can start a new game, play and everything without crashing however if I save and exit the game upon reopening it and trying to load my save I CTD immediately. If someone could help me out I would appreciate it. I'm running a basic modlist which consists of the following mods:

F4SE
BackportedBA2Support_1.0
Immersive Animation Framework
HUDFramework
Cheat Terminal
Photo Mode
Mod Configuration Menu
The Eyes of Beauty
First-Person Running with Hands
First-Person Swimming Animations
Buffout 4
Baka Scrapheap
BuffBaka Settings for Buffout 4 and Baka Scrapheap
Caliente's Beautiful Body Replacer
Journal of The Sole Survivor
BakaFramework
Canary Save file monitor
LooksMenu
Garden of Eden Papyrus Script Extender
Robco Patcher
Leveled Item Fixes (LIF)
Lighthouse Papyrus Extender
Ponytail Hairstyles
See Through Scopes
Start Me Up Redux
Full Dialogue Interface
Workshop Framework
Bullet Counted Reload
Everyone's Best Friend Dogmeat
High FPS Physics Fix
Address Library
We Are The Minutemen
Militarized Minutemen
Militarized Minutemen Uniform patches
WATM-MM-MMUP Patch
ELFX
Vivid Weathers
Advanced Animation Framework
cVc Dead Wasteland 6 (all)
Proto Vault Suit
FallUI (Inventory, HUD, Workbench, Confirm Boxes)
Heather Casdin
FO4 NPCs Travel
Tactical Reload Framework
Wattz Laser Gun
Backpacks of The Commonwealth
CROSS (Institute Expeditionary Suit, Strigidae, Mojave Manhunter, CryoLance)
Mosin Nagant
Sim Settlements 2 (Chapter 1, 2, and 3)
Realistic Ragdolls and Force
CoA Overhaul (Children of Atom Overhaul)
Hellcat PA and Fix
Visible Companion Affinity
Wasteland Imports
Ellen The Cartographer and her Full-Dialogue Interface patch
Hellfire X-03
Forced Evolution (Super Mutant Add-Ons)
Diving Power Armor
Equalizer PA (Old-Gen)
Epsilon Squad Equalizer PA paint
T 65 Power Armor
LOUDER Power Armor Voice Changer
PA Holohud
Enclave X-02 PA
RedShift PA
Institute PA
Excavator PA
T51C PA
Ultracite PA
Select PA
X-01 Invisible flashlight remove
Bastion - Soviet PA
T-47 PA
Gunner Power Armor
Enclave Gear Pack
.38 machine pistol
Complex Item Sorter
Standalone Workbenches
The Chuck-It Missile
Vintage revolver rifle
10mm revolver
Varmint revolver
The Automatic Rifle
Munitions
Riot Pistol
Shoulder Mounted Machine Gun
Infantry Battle Rifle
Select Blaster - ESL
Assault Shotgun
Cowboy Carbine
Vintage Repeater
Anti-PA Rifle
Police Sidearm
25mm Grenade APW
Incendiary Launcher
Varmint Shotgun
Police Shotgun
The Assault Pistol
Ruger Rifle Pack
Lever Action Shotgun
Marksman Pistol
Bullpup Scout Rifle
12.7mm Pistol
12.7mm SMG
Casing Framework
Deagle .50 AE MAIN
Rolling Block Rifle
Navy Swedish SMG
Rheinmetall MG34
Handmade Pistol
Explosives Complex
Thumper - Grenade Launcher
Small Game Shotgun
.44 Auto-Revolver
PKP Pecheneg MG
Tumbajamba's Heavy Shotgun and Armor
Tumbajamba's Heavy Shotgun and Armor munitions patch
Discharger Pistol
PKP Pecheneg Leveled List injector
Nailer MKII
Grease Gun SMG
Trail Carbine
N99C 10mm Pistol
Auto-Ordinance Laser RCW
Burst Pistol
Early Game Armor Pack
Pig's Wasteland Weaponry Pack
Brel Submachine Gun
SELECT Power Bow
Chinese Pistol Set
Lewis Gun
SELECT Pip-boy
Photon Disrupter
SELECT Revolver
Select Shotgun
Remove Ammo from dropped guns
Institute Technology Overhaul v2
Attachment Pack and the Unofficial Expansion
Settlement Menu Manager
Homemaker
Conquest
Ashland Station
Tumbajamba Gunner Armor Collection
Tumbajamba Brotherhood Armor Collection
Tumbajamba MInutemen Armor Collection
Enclave recon armor
Dino's Decor Pack
You and What Army 2
Attack of The Lobotomites
DC Guard Armor Overhaul
Enemies Fear Power Armor
Subway Runner revival
Random Encounter Framework
Integrated Automatron
Commonwealth Encounter Pack
Mutant Menagerie (High Quality textures)
Another Another Millenia weapons pack
Power Armor To The People
Classic Skill Books
Cigarette Cards
Vault Dweller Survival Guide
Mobius Needle Rifle
M72 Gauss Rifle
M72 Gauss Rifle Attachment Pack
West-Tek Optics Pack
AMP10K gun
Place Everywhere
Workshop Plus
Static Objects and Buildings
Snap'N Build 2.0
Snappy Housekit
M20A1 Whale gun
AEC19 Laser Cannon
Objective Rifle
Burst-Fire Framework
Winchester City Killer
Laser weapon reanimation
Visual Reload Framework
VRS Double Barrel (tactical reload)
Assault rifle reanimated
Radium-Rifle Reload updated
RPD
Animated radaway
Spec Ops Pistol
Equalizer Jetpack (Old Gen)
Recon Suit
Valkyr Body Texture
Lots More Male Hairstyles
Lots More Beards
Immersive Mouth and teeth
Tesla heavy autocannon
Hunter's Abyss (and CBBE patch)
West Tek Combat Rifle
West Tek Combat Rifle remesh munitions
Dak's Combat Rifle Redux - west tek optics patch
Reanimation pack for combat rifle/shotgun
Nuka-World AK replacer
Power Armor Manual
Self-Loading rifle
The rebuild collection (and it's required resources)
Federal Ration Stockpile
People Live In (Unmarked raider camps, USAF Olivia, Dark Hollow Pond, Roadside pines)
Who's The General
Lima Outpost
Vivid Fallout Best Choice
Vivid Fallout LOD and Far Distance Detail
Plenty O' Exploration
Caves of The Commonwealth
HK G11
The Zap Gun
Give me That Bottle
Bastion Power Armor Overhaul
DirectHit
Dak's Weapon Rebalance (Ammo and Leveled List)
Pip-Boy Glove (CBBE and Integration patch)
Marine AT Rifle
Classic Combat Armor
Unbound Worldspace - No Previs and PreCombine for exterior cells
ELFX previs precombine patch
Shoulder Mounted M2
The Marshlands DLC mod
DAK handmade Assault SMG
DAK handmade assault shotgun
Handmade assault shotgun righthanded patch
Mutant Menagerie Crops expanded
Bodyslide Outfit Studio
OC Decorator
The Attachment Pack implementation patch
Unofficial Fallout 4 patch
Ketaros treasure (boardgames, cards, shelf, and magazines)
Ketaros World
Civil Defense Index (magazines)
Nuka-world recipe book retexture
American 180
Service Rifle Expansion Project
Lucy's Vault Tec backpack
Vault-Tec workshop overhaul redux
Dak's Security Armor

This is not how my load order is set up, I use LOOT to autosort my load order (yes I know.)
Furthermore I don't encounter any crashes on start up of the game or starting a new game but as stated above when reloading a save game or continuing a save it instantly crashes to desktop. As for Plugin Limit I only have 152 ESP's the rest are all ESL's.
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Zekiran Feb 17 @ 2:42pm 
ANY save? Or just a specific save? Because it might just be that the save got corrupted. If you had to run a downgrader, had you started up the game AFTER the update? If so, you can't use that save any more anyway because it would be changed by the upgrade, I would imagine.

If you have a much older save from that same character that wasn't from the update era, try that?
Last edited by Zekiran; Feb 17 @ 2:43pm
@Zekiran Any save, I started a new game after downgrading the game and rebuilding my mod-list with mods with the downgraded versions and now my game just refuses to load any and all saves. I can still create a new save and play it but upon dying or loading the save it crashes instantly
“basic modlist” lmfao
Originally posted by EducatedAwsome:
@Zekiran Any save, I started a new game after downgrading the game and rebuilding my mod-list with mods with the downgraded versions and now my game just refuses to load any and all saves. I can still create a new save and play it but upon dying or loading the save it crashes instantly
This strongly suggests you missed something in the downgrade.

Simple test - disable all mods. Can you now start a new game, save it, load it? I’m guessing yes.

Another possibility is you overwrote your ini file and your settings are wrong for your hardware. But given the crash happens on save game load a mod conflict is more likely. One of those mods is not downgrade ready.
Originally posted by The Inept European:
Originally posted by EducatedAwsome:
@Zekiran Any save, I started a new game after downgrading the game and rebuilding my mod-list with mods with the downgraded versions and now my game just refuses to load any and all saves. I can still create a new save and play it but upon dying or loading the save it crashes instantly
This strongly suggests you missed something in the downgrade.

Simple test - disable all mods. Can you now start a new game, save it, load it? I’m guessing yes.

Another possibility is you overwrote your ini file and your settings are wrong for your hardware. But given the crash happens on save game load a mod conflict is more likely. One of those mods is not downgrade ready.

Possibly, I was pretty meticulous though when it came to the downgrade. Though mod conflict is possible despite my best efforts to only snatch pre-next gen.
As for disabling all the mods, starting a new game, saving, quitting and reloading in just fine.
Ok you will have to start working through that long list of mods. Sorry I don’t think there is any shortcut.
Best of luck.
Originally posted by The Inept European:
Best of luck.
No worries, I may just delete and reinstall everything and just go with the next-gen despite my caution regarding that travesty of an update
Zekiran Feb 17 @ 9:02pm 
Eh from what I've seen otherwise, there's still plenty of perfectly great stuff, and most mods weren't affected. You ARE using the 'downgraded BA2' mod thing which I couldn't even get to work myself, so I've just lived without updating much in the last year since I'm still on the old version myself.

Did you use any CC? If you have any of those getting in the way that's also something you might want to make sure of, and look up "manifest" in this section of the forum or in sdack's guide because that might also be a problem sometimes your mod list / download manifests are wrong and just need to be remade.
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Date Posted: Feb 17 @ 11:12am
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