Gun modding leveling

[mcross]

How do you unlock the next ranks in gun modding? (gun nut) I am still not getting to the next rank no matter how much I mod my weapons. Lots of mods to do but need higher gun nut ranks ...and I'm not getting them>

[Thë Rëgülathör]

you chose the perk "gun nut" when you level up.... just like every other perk in this game

[mortar031]

You need to increase the level of your gun nut perk, some of the mods need science as well. When you hi light a particular mod it will show what you need.

[mcross]

Thanks I see that now. I made a mistake early with choosing perks. I kept leveling up the top row of perks thinking the rows below would "light up" when they were available...hence my 1st 16 or so levels I was staying on the top row. Stupid of me but oh well.

[Codester]

Ohhh man that sucks lol. Since most of the first tier things suck I would 100% honestly restart your file.

[ImHelping]

I forget the command myself, but look up how to console edit your perks and such if you'd like. That's half the advantage of playing on PC instead of console.

If it helps, if you find a weapon or armor with a mod better than you can craft, you can still take that mode. You build a default part replacement, which lets you swipe the cool parts.

This is how I got a couple maxed out 10mm guns, even though I only have 1 rank in gunnut so far. I swiped the quick eject large mags, top of the line recivers, and barrels I saw on some looted/pre placed in the world guns.

Keep in mind you need to have a replacement part handy even for when it makes no sense at all, such as needing a replacement Iron Sight when you want to steal the scope off something.

Muzzle parts you can detach freely though.

Unrelated heads up. I keep seeing threads warning about visual bugs caused by night vision and recon scopes. So as cool as those sound, I'd avoid using them for now I guess.

While it's convenient, and more important the better the guns you use (Shotgun has 90% of it's upgrades from rank 1. Combat shotgun wants rank 2 to use better than generic parts, and then higher), I'd personally consider armor smith to be more "important" than gunsmith even if you use it less from the standpoint of making sure you get exactly what you want.

Why? Well, in the early game exploring (especually if you procrastinate on quest stuf a lot), it's a lot harder to find a full set of armor of both the type and modifications you want. Then eventually having enough guns to build a top of the line 10mm just from scavenging alone.

In my early wanderings, I've got 20 laser pistols, a dozen double barrel shotguns, lost track of my pipe guns and 10mms.

I pretty much NEEDED to use crafting to ensure my metal armor (after getting all 5 individual pieces) was not only better than default defense, but being light weight or having Deep Pockets on top.

Relying on shops or the RNG to provide weapons on part with what you are fighting is less annoying than relying on it to give you the armor mods you want, basically. I've been getting Gunsmithing, Armor, AND Science crafting but if I was forced to choose only one of them it would probably be the armor smithing, just to avoid that annoyance.

[[IFC]Mjollnir]

If using console commands helps you correcting an error, or avoiding a glitch (like you falling through the floor after entering a building, unstuck yourself when you managed to jump to somewhere where you can't get out again..I won't consider that cheating...if someone instead is going to give himself all perks at full even before leaving Vault 111, -that's- cheating...

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by IFCMjollnir:

If using console commands helps you correcting an error, or avoiding a glitch (like you falling through the floor after entering a building, unstuck yourself when you managed to jump to somewhere where you can't get out again..I won't consider that cheating...if someone instead is going to give himself all perks at full even before leaving Vault 111, -that's- cheating...

I've sworn off Console Bethseda games after Oblivion for a reason, yeah.

Not that PC versions don't have their own spectaculat WTF, but at least you can desperatly swing your tilde key at some of the worst of it.