ROOTED?? VATS???

[Yung Dab]

since your character is standing still in vats does it benefit from the melee damage increase from rooted??

[Yung Dab]

i believe the term is bump?

[Mook]

It depends if you activated standing still I believe.

[Yung Dab]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

It depends if you activated standing still I believe.

never thought of that. i just assume since all your attacks in vats have your character standing still for them that it might benefit from it. also since its melee i get pushed a lot. hopefully being moved by an npc doesnt remove the effects.

[MDuh]

That rooted perk is the most garbage perk in the game. Enemies with guns won't run at you to get meleed. Also want to get molotoved? go get that perk

[Mook]

Rooted is a horrible perk which I got then removed because I thought it applied to guns for some reason. It works maybe if your melee only actually, but if not then it's useless. Also I believe vats does apply even though your guy teleports. But I am not sure

[Yung Dab]

i dont actually plan on standing stll and having people run at me guys... my character is all luck and agility so im in vats for 80% of combat. if eventually i get my strength high enough i was just asking to see if rooted would apply in vats. becaues 50% damage on my vats attacks would be nuts. i wasnt going to put points into it to sit still and watch people shoot me... this is also why VATS is in the title. not "MAKING STANDING STILL BUILD. WORTH?"

[Mook]

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

i dont actually plan on standing stll and having people run at me guys... my character is all luck and agility so im in vats for 80% of combat. if eventually i get my strength high enough i was just asking to see if rooted would apply in vats. becaues 50% damage on my vats attacks would be nuts. i wasnt going to put points into it to sit still and watch people shoot me... this is also why VATS is in the title. not "MAKING STANDING STILL BUILD. WORTH?"

50% on vats when standing still isn't that great with melee weapons. Unless your melee only and have to get up close, there are way better perks you can get unless your melee only

[Yung Dab]

just used console commands (added the strength and rank 2 of perk to be sure) to test and it does in fact work... even if you are moving when you activate vats the damage will still apply on your attacks. if anyone has chameleon armor yet it works just like that. even if you are moving in sneak mode and the stealth field isnt on, as soon as you open your pip boy while moving the stealth field will turn on. works the same with rooted. as soon as you activate vats you are considered to be standing still. they probably did this on purpose or as others have stated the perk would be absolute garbage

[Yung Dab]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

i dont actually plan on standing stll and having people run at me guys... my character is all luck and agility so im in vats for 80% of combat. if eventually i get my strength high enough i was just asking to see if rooted would apply in vats. becaues 50% damage on my vats attacks would be nuts. i wasnt going to put points into it to sit still and watch people shoot me... this is also why VATS is in the title. not "MAKING STANDING STILL BUILD. WORTH?"

50% on vats when standing still isn't that great with melee weapons. Unless your melee only and have to get up close, there are way better perks you can get unless your melee only

"im all agility luck" im using all the crit perks and blitz in agility. i am all melee.

[Mook]

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

just used console commands (added the strength and rank 2 of perk to be sure) to test and it does in fact work... even if you are moving when you activate vats the damage will still apply on your attacks. if anyone has chameleon armor yet it works just like that. even if you are moving in sneak mode and the stealth field isnt on, as soon as you open your pip boy while moving the stealth field will turn on. works the same with rooted. as soon as you activate vats you are considered to be standing still. they probably did this on purpose or as others have stated the perk would be absolute garbage

Perk is still garbage compared to other perks you can get, unless of course you only use melee.

[Jester]

Rooted + Blitz + Ninja = pwnage

[Mook]

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

50% on vats when standing still isn't that great with melee weapons. Unless your melee only and have to get up close, there are way better perks you can get unless your melee only

"im all agility luck" im using all the crit perks and blitz in agility. i am all melee.

If your melee than a lot of melee perks are in strength?

[Yung Dab]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

"im all agility luck" im using all the crit perks and blitz in agility. i am all melee.

If your melee than a lot of melee perks are in strength?

only melee strength perks you need are blacksmith, big leagues and armorer. which only require 4 strength. my starting strength was low because i considered stuff like grim reaper sprint and better criticals in luck to be more important than the extra strength damage. also with so much AP with 9 agility, using blitz, and being in vats for the majority of combat luck seemed like a better option than strength. especially when the only melee perk that i would benefit from in strength (past 4 strength) would be rooted. in luck almost all the top tier perks are worth it for a melee vats character.

[Mook]

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

If your melee than a lot of melee perks are in strength?

only melee strength perks you need are blacksmith, big leagues and armorer. which only require 4 strength. my starting strength was low because i considered stuff like grim reaper sprint and better criticals in luck to be more important than the extra strength damage. also with so much AP with 9 agility, using blitz, and being in vats for the majority of combat luck seemed like a better option than strength. especially when the only melee perk that i would benefit from in strength (past 4 strength) would be rooted. in luck almost all the top tier perks are worth it for a melee vats character.

Is this your first playthrough? In fallout games I always do a general build and mostly all types of weapons that have different ammo. I couldn't imagine doing melee only because I havnt experienced all the cool guns in fallout 4.

[Yung Dab]

Originally posted by ØпiҠanji:

Originally posted by Bomjus 2.0:

only melee strength perks you need are blacksmith, big leagues and armorer. which only require 4 strength. my starting strength was low because i considered stuff like grim reaper sprint and better criticals in luck to be more important than the extra strength damage. also with so much AP with 9 agility, using blitz, and being in vats for the majority of combat luck seemed like a better option than strength. especially when the only melee perk that i would benefit from in strength (past 4 strength) would be rooted. in luck almost all the top tier perks are worth it for a melee vats character.

Is this your first playthrough? In fallout games I always do a general build and mostly all types of weapons that have different ammo. I couldn't imagine doing melee only because I havnt experienced all the cool guns in fallout 4.

no my "first" playthrough lasted about 3 hours when i realized i ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up and charisma was actually amazing compared to fnv and fo3 where you could just max speech or barter. also i realized for a sneak ranged character luck was ♥♥♥♥ because theres no random crits anymore and perception was ass besides lockpicking because you have better accuracy holding your breath AND better range using a scoped weapon yourself than VATS. so my first character that i had planned on making a crit sneak character went down the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ real quick. so i restarted and put the points where they should be. in stuff like charisma for amazing buy and sell prices, lone wanderer, local leader etc. also i hadnt realized at the time how OP broken sauce bobbleheads were so i saved points by putting in 1 less than i needed in stats and just went to pick up the bobblehead. IE: bloody mess is 3 luck so i put 2 luck in at the start and just got the bobblehead eventually.

TLDR: i didnt know ♥♥♥♥ first playthrough so i refined my build after 3 hours and played that character to lvl 63 and now im doing melee.