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Necro Nov 14, 2015 @ 11:49am
Everything Is Doing No Damage.
[Solution] It isn't much of a 'solution' but it let me continue playing at least. Loading an older save worked, and I lost a couple hours of work. Better than starting over though.

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So I've recently had this problem where my 10mm Pistol simply stops doing damage for no reason.

All my other guns work, it's only this one. I noticed on a Mirelurk at first when I thought it was just preventing my damage so I changed guns on it. Then in the next encounter I had with some Ghouls the 10mm Pistol continued to do no damage, even when I used a weaker weapon like a Pipe gun.

If I save and reload my game the 10mm Pistol will do damage again, but only for a few minutes and it stops. It actually stopped doing any damage in the middle of this pack of Ghouls I'm currently fighting, which is pretty frustrating.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Quick Update, tried the pistol out some more and it looks like the bullets are actually going 'through' what I'm trying to shoot. I can see it making sparks on the wall behind enemies, or puffs of dirt kicking up behind them.


Another Update here: It has now affected all my guns. If I don't aim in VATS, I can't deal any damage with firearms. VATS works fine, though I assume that's because you don't actually 'shoot' your gun, the game just does math and decides how much damage the enemy took.
That's my theory anyway. Either way it's pretty much ended my game until I can fix this. I'm playing Survivalist with a Stealth Sniper character.


Even further update: Enemies can no longer hit me with Ranged attacks.


Last Update: Ok, so looks like it's getting progressively worse as melee attacks are the only thing that work now. Explosives are out now as well.

After testing out what works and doesn't work, I've begun to think it's a hitbox situation. VATS targeting no longer works as it it targets below the ground and tells me I have 0 chance to hit. I think something may have launched the hitboxes of everything below the ground. My companion has also stopped moving, although he still speaks as well.

Real last update for real: Looks like I can't interact with doors either.

Here are some screenshots, I don't know if they'll help.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=554831183

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=554856964

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=554870968

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=554871065
Last edited by Necro; Nov 15, 2015 @ 9:56am
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t4chy Nov 14, 2015 @ 11:33pm 
I have encountered the issue with the 10mm pistol too on mirelurk at the quarry. After a reload, I, and all NPC too, were no longer on top of the ground, but walking on a layer below it.
Jon Nov 28, 2015 @ 10:47am 
been getting this issue suddenly. all guns dont appear to do any damage, only weapon im able to actually use is melee, which is ok as that's my build but is awkward when i want to snipe someone and they take no damage.. likewise i take no damage either.. have cycled god mode but that's not made any difference..
Necro Nov 28, 2015 @ 1:05pm 
I posted my solution at the beginning of my post, if you are willing to lose a bit of progress, loading an older save worked for me.
Jon Nov 30, 2015 @ 1:28pm 
oddly after re-loading it seemed to fix itself. just seemed an odd bug as if i shot at walls it'd register but with targets they just got alerted by the sound and took no damage.
probably one of those things they'll patch out... probably when i side with the railroad.
McKnuckles Nov 30, 2015 @ 2:02pm 
I don't think I have seen the no gun damage yet, but I have seen the doors not wanting to work show up like once or twice. The weird part was another door that let you into the same area worked (and I was able to exit out the door that I couldn't interact with before and it became usable again).
Jon Dec 2, 2015 @ 7:55am 
Hmm, know some might be unaccessible due to being part of a future quest, or its barred from the other side but those normally say so. Bugs that annoy me are when the character gets stuck in an animation when sitting at a terminal or standing up from one and get locked I'm place.. Head turns show the clipping through your shoulders.. Which is nice as I can never see my feet in fps mode.
Jon Dec 2, 2015 @ 7:58am 
Best bet is just delete the fallout 4 exe , then verify file integrity and it'll dl any corrupted files
Last edited by Jon; Dec 2, 2015 @ 7:59am
vexis58 Jan 4, 2016 @ 11:28am 
Just had this same issue:
- I couldn't hit anything with guns.
- Nothing else could hit me with guns.
- My companion (Preston at the time) did not seem to be hitting anything either.
- Explosions did no damage either (dropped a mine at my feet while face to face with a turret, it exploded immediately, dealing no damage to either of us).
- I could still deal damage with VATS, but every time I opened it up, my camera would focus on the ground for a second or two until I moved it back up to where the enemy was. Seemed like my hit rate even here was way less than normal.
- I could still both take and deal melee damage.
- Didn't encounter any doors so I can't say if they were affected.

Occurred soon after exiting Malden Drainage (not enough hacking skill to continue there so I left) after clearing out Taffington Boathouse, heading back to Greentop Nursery to turn in the quest.

All weapons were affected, switching them didn't fix it.
Saving and reloading didn't fix it.
Loading an older save from before the issue started didn't fix it.
Closing the game completely (it crashed when I told it to quit) and then restarting and loading the save DID fix it.
Last edited by vexis58; Jan 4, 2016 @ 11:30am
pike Jan 4, 2016 @ 11:33am 
running the game without the 60fps limit will cause strange errors , so will mods , along with excessive console command use
Irondagger Feb 12, 2016 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Necro:
I posted my solution at the beginning of my post, if you are willing to lose a bit of progress, loading an older save worked for me.
how old I did this and it happened on a different enemy in the mission :steamsad:
Latch32474 Jun 14, 2016 @ 6:46am 
I just hit this same issue on the Xbox One - It seems to have started once I drank from the water pump in Somerville place prior to getting the location as a settlement. I have reloaded the an earlier save and again drank from the water pump and it happened again. I reloaded the same save and did not drink from the fountain - everything worked fine after -

I had already tried to quit the game powered off the Xbox and restarted - each time I drank from the water pump I got the same bug - not able to hit enemies. (did not run into the door issue - but also did not need to open any.
FreedomWarrior Jul 30, 2016 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by vexis58:
Just had this same issue:
- I couldn't hit anything with guns.
- Nothing else could hit me with guns.
- My companion (Preston at the time) did not seem to be hitting anything either.
- Explosions did no damage either (dropped a mine at my feet while face to face with a turret, it exploded immediately, dealing no damage to either of us).
- I could still deal damage with VATS, but every time I opened it up, my camera would focus on the ground for a second or two until I moved it back up to where the enemy was. Seemed like my hit rate even here was way less than normal.
- I could still both take and deal melee damage.
- Didn't encounter any doors so I can't say if they were affected.

Occurred soon after exiting Malden Drainage (not enough hacking skill to continue there so I left) after clearing out Taffington Boathouse, heading back to Greentop Nursery to turn in the quest.

All weapons were affected, switching them didn't fix it.
Saving and reloading didn't fix it.
Loading an older save from before the issue started didn't fix it.
Closing the game completely (it crashed when I told it to quit) and then restarting and loading the save DID fix it.


Same issue, resolved by trying to go to the main menu, continuing and the game automatically ereased a save that i made before, and asking me again if i wanted to continue
Frijoles108 Apr 17, 2018 @ 11:12pm 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I just finished beating a higher level queen mirelurk and this started happening
madlarkin8 Jul 30, 2018 @ 7:56am 
I hate to necro a 2 year old thread like this but I just encountered the issue two days ago, which means it isnt fixed, so in case anyone else encounters it. I have a developer(ish) mod for assessing glitches installed and I can confirm the issue arises from a separation of player hit-box from the player physical entity. A number of things can cause it but from my testing it seems to be entering and reentering VATS rapidly while targetting mirelurks (it has something to do with their leanforward animation when you shoot their face rapidly) or rapidly tapping action button on a timed action (like pumping water). This causes the player hit box to bounce rapidly (unseen to the player) from a point just under the map to the players vantage point making enemy hit detection scarce and most if not all aimed shots miss (even a majority of 95% VATS shots), the deviation is less the closer you are to enemy, thats why melee seems to work fine and sniping is totally impossible. As the OP said, you can reload a save to a time before it happened but if you are playing survival mode with max 3 autosave that isnt always an option, as when I checked back, my only option was to start from vault 111 again (im level 96) :\

altternative: reload the cell you are in by entering a building that causes a load screen, this will reset your hitbox to player vantage point and ought to fix it. Some people (depending on how badly you are separated from your hitbox "soul") may not even be able to interact with doors, in this case find yourself a load screen that doesnt require a doorway, namely: a cave. there is one north of vault 81 and a few in the glowing sea that I can think of. possibly fast travel might fix it but Im playing survival mode and I dont have that option. it took two tries of entering/exiting/entering/exiting and it was fixed.

Hope this helps someone, when I realized my last and only three autosaves were all glitched out I almost threw computer out window.
komercjaa Jul 30, 2018 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by madlarkin8:
I hate to necro a 2 year old thread like this but I just encountered the issue two days ago, which means it isnt fixed, so in case anyone else encounters it. I have a developer(ish) mod for assessing glitches installed and I can confirm the issue arises from a separation of player hit-box from the player physical entity. A number of things can cause it but from my testing it seems to be entering and reentering VATS rapidly while targetting mirelurks (it has something to do with their leanforward animation when you shoot their face rapidly) or rapidly tapping action button on a timed action (like pumping water). This causes the player hit box to bounce rapidly (unseen to the player) from a point just under the map to the players vantage point making enemy hit detection scarce and most if not all aimed shots miss (even a majority of 95% VATS shots), the deviation is less the closer you are to enemy, thats why melee seems to work fine and sniping is totally impossible. As the OP said, you can reload a save to a time before it happened but if you are playing survival mode with max 3 autosave that isnt always an option, as when I checked back, my only option was to start from vault 111 again (im level 96) :\

altternative: reload the cell you are in by entering a building that causes a load screen, this will reset your hitbox to player vantage point and ought to fix it. Some people (depending on how badly you are separated from your hitbox "soul") may not even be able to interact with doors, in this case find yourself a load screen that doesnt require a doorway, namely: a cave. there is one north of vault 81 and a few in the glowing sea that I can think of. possibly fast travel might fix it but Im playing survival mode and I dont have that option. it took two tries of entering/exiting/entering/exiting and it was fixed.

Hope this helps someone, when I realized my last and only three autosaves were all glitched out I almost threw computer out window.


Just got the same thing, found your post and thought I was f#ck.
For me though, a simple exit to desktop worked fine. Went back to the exit save right in the middle of the battle where I found the glich and it worked as if there wasn't a problem.

Also,

Originally posted by Frijoles108:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I just finished beating a higher level queen mirelurk and this started happening

Went to have the same issue after a minelurk queen. Mine was at Murkwater construction Site. (But, I did use the command there 7 times to build the defences for the railroad mission).
Last edited by komercjaa; Jul 30, 2018 @ 2:07pm
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