Why is the perception perk so bad?

[Purple Sauce]

In the older fall outs I could literally see anything with perception of 7 or better from a mile away to the point where it was kinda annoying because my screen always had some kind of red marker on it.

But now with 8 perception I can't even see a mole rat on my radar that was 10 steps or so away from me that I was looking at down the sights of my gun. What gives?

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Jesus christ and I thought I was nitpicky about gameing terminology at times.

gid gud then

Do you have an allergic reaction to people calling Magazines, Clips? It's often a warning sign.

[Skaldy]

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Originally posted by Skaldy:

gid gud then

Do you have an allergic reaction to people calling Magazines, Clips? It's often a warning sign.

nope i only have allergic reaction to people who think they are smart

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

Do you have an allergic reaction to people calling Magazines, Clips? It's often a warning sign.

nope i only have allergic reaction to people who think they are smart

Oh good, you should be safe around me then...

wait.

[Sidian]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

uhhhh no. Perception is perk now. Stat is something that effects your abilities and such. Which also enhances your skills.

You mean something like lockpicking, steaing chance and VATS accuracy? There we go, Perception is a stat as it effects your abilities and such.

[Skaldy]

Originally posted by Sidian:

Originally posted by Skaldy:

uhhhh no. Perception is perk now. Stat is something that effects your abilities and such. Which also enhances your skills.

You mean something like lockpicking, steaing chance and VATS accuracy? There we go, Perception is a stat as it effects your abilities and such.

fun fact:pickpocketing is a agi based stuff. Fun fact lockpicking doesnt effected from perception you still need to get perks to get locks. If you played original fallout there were only lockpick chance on a lock no advance or something. Git gud

[The_Pastmaster]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

Originally posted by I'm Helping!:

The Perception stat is the P in S.P.E.C.I.A.L.

Seriously, they have trailers about it and everything too.

yeah it is but it doesnt make it a stat. Perhaps you should learn what stat means?

Statistic
noun
noun: statistic; plural noun: statistics

1.
a fact or piece of data obtained from a study of a large quantity of numerical data.
"the statistics show that the crime rate has increased"
an event or person regarded as no more than a piece of data (used to suggest an inappropriately impersonal approach).
"he was just another statistic"

adjective
adjective: statistic

1.
another term for statistical.

Statistical
adjective
adjective: statistical

relating to the use of statistics.
"a statistical comparison"

So Perception is not a statistic.


Attribute
verb
verb: attribute; 3rd person present: attributes; past tense: attributed; past participle: attributed; gerund or present participle: attributing
əˈtrɪbju:t/
1.
regard something as being caused by.
"he attributed the firm's success to the efforts of the managing director"
synonyms: ascribe, assign, accredit, credit, impute, allot, allocate; More
put down to, set down to, chalk up to, lay at the door of, hold responsible for, pin something on, lay something on, place something on;
connect with, associate with;
informalstick something on
"they attributed the success of the expedition entirely to one man"
ascribe a work or remark to (a particular author, artist, or speaker).
"the building was attributed to Inigo Jones"
regard a quality or feature as characteristic of or possessed by.
"ancient peoples attributed magic properties to certain stones"
noun
noun: attribute; plural noun: attributes
ˈatrɪbju:t/
1.
a quality or feature regarded as a characteristic or inherent part of someone or something.
"flexibility and mobility are the key attributes of Britain's army"
synonyms: quality, feature, characteristic, trait, element, aspect, property, hallmark, mark, distinction, sign, telltale sign, sure sign; More
idiosyncrasy, peculiarity, quirk
"he has all the attributes of a top midfield player"
a material object recognized as symbolic of a person, especially a conventional object used in art to identify a saint or mythical figure.
"it was not until the end of the fifteenth century that the sandglass was depicted as the attribute of Father Time"
synonyms: symbol, indicator, mark, sign, hallmark, trademark, status symbol
"the hourglass was depicted as the attribute of Father Time"
2.
Computing
a piece of information which determines the properties of a field or tag in a database or a string of characters in a display.

So we have attained that Perception is an attribute. Good. Progress was made today. ^_^

[Skaldy]

nope you got to the wrong terminology. You should be using the rpg one.

[The_Pastmaster]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

nope you got to the wrong terminology. You should be using the rpg one.

Nice handwaving there. ;P

[Skaldy]

Originally posted by The_Pastmaster:

Originally posted by Skaldy:

nope you got to the wrong terminology. You should be using the rpg one.

Nice handwaving there. ;P

i can wave something bigger if you like? For example perception doesnt show up as whole senses of human body? You digg my feel bro?

[Iscend Comprine]

VATs is actually pretty nice,

1 shot critical against a behemoth? Yes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ please.

[The_Pastmaster]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

Originally posted by The_Pastmaster:

Nice handwaving there. ;P

i can wave something bigger if you like? For example perception doesnt show up as whole senses of human body? You digg my feel bro?

Two of those questions are not posing an inquiry so to the third one: No, I don't feel your "diggs". o_O

[Sidian]

Originally posted by Skaldy:

fun fact:pickpocketing is a agi based stuff. Fun fact lockpicking doesnt effected from perception you still need to get perks to get locks. If you played original fallout there were only lockpick chance on a lock no advance or something. Git gud

Fun Fact: You don't need to be agile to pick someones pocket. But you need to know what you can steal and from where, which is based on your perception. Dexterity is the term you are looking for, but that is not in the game.
Fun Fact: When lockpicking, a high perception increases the area you have to find, making lockpicking easier, so it does affect lockpicking.

In addition, a simple chance of success is not something i would like to see again. Oh god these Morrowind flashbacks...

[Khloros]

To say vats is worthless is horribly horribly ignorant. A luck perception build is very good.

The advantage of vats over standard shooting is that vats can crit and insta kill something, or trigger bloody mess, or the stranger perk which can end up taking out a whole room off of one or 2 bullets.

Vats is VERY good

[Mansen]

Originally posted by HCG_BackSpaceHacker:

To say vats is worthless is horribly horribly ignorant. A luck perception build is very good.

If you are have any experience playing a shooter? It is. You'll be spending a ton of perk points getting your VATS to be remotely comparable with manual aim is much better spent elsewhere.

And even if you max out VATS completely, you'll never be able to use it at the same ranges as your manual aim.

[R3sistance]

playing on a controller? VATs will help.
playing with keyboard and mouse? VATs is vastly less accurate then you likely are. They have balanced the SPECIAL skills out in this game by dramatically limiting their usefulness... I dunno but now it feels like each point of special and each perk is worth about half of what a perk or special point was worth in fallout 3.